Unsung Composers

The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: eschiss1 on Monday 05 February 2024, 18:12

Title: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 05 February 2024, 18:12
who I've asked about previously (quite awhile ago) - a premiere recording of some of his chamber music came out just last year. (Probably the first recording of any of his chamber music, I'm guessing.) I have not (yet) heard it. Has anyone here?
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 05 February 2024, 19:30
Is this the release you were thinking of, Eric? If so, it's not out here in the UK until 1st March:

(https://media1.jpc.de/image/w2182/rear/0/9003643992955.jpg)
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 05 February 2024, 20:22
That looks like maybe the 2nd ever recording of his chamber music. My. It never rains but it pours (no matter one's opinion of his music, which I've neither seen nor heard yet.) According to Worldcat, the contents of the 2023 disc (or eMusic) is "Violin sonata, op. 2 (23:06) -- Piano trio, op. 8 (26:44) -- Cello sonata, op. 42 (27:50)." -- and here is the YouTube playlist (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nUhcANAAifMjc7bpvtwagTcUVMoDYTXNY) ; I'm not sure if it exists as a physical CD, but it does exist in several electronic formats. A search reveals that these were performed and perhaps recorded to the 2023 recording at the 7th Krakow Music Salon festival. (The original manufacturer offers it here (https://spmk.com.pl/en/publikacja/hommage-a-paul-caro/).)
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Alan Howe on Monday 05 February 2024, 20:31
This is the release, I think - only available as a download:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BTMM4W1Q/ref=sr_1_1?crid=33MVYWYMURVEO&keywords=hommage+a+paul+caro&qid=1707164815&sprefix=hommage+a+paul+caro%2Caps%2C270&sr=8-1

 
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Wheesht on Thursday 08 February 2024, 16:10
A physical CD is available to order from the Polish Chamber Music Association (https://spmk.com.pl/en/publikacja/hommage-a-paul-caro/) by bank transfer.
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 08 February 2024, 17:06
Thanks.

Here's a video (in Polish) about the composer containing excerpts from his music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1LCr2YQrHs
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Sharkkb8 on Thursday 08 February 2024, 21:34
Also available from Apple Music (https://music.apple.com/us/album/hommage-%C3%A0-paul-caro-chamber-works/1670177671).

hmmm, link not working?  Try copy/paste - https://music.apple.com/us/album/hommage-à-paul-caro-chamber-works/1670177671
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 28 February 2024, 17:46
Thanks to Wheesht, I duly contacted the Polish Chamber Musicians' Association (SPMK) and ordered their CD of music by Caro (1859-1914), titled 'Hommage à Paul Caro':

(https://spmk.com.pl/en/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/hommage.webp)
https://spmk.com.pl/en/publikacja/hommage-a-paul-caro/

The Violin Sonata in F major, Op.2 is a very beautiful, melodically generous work apparently written during Caro's period of study under Bruckner in Vienna between 1880 and 1885. You'll look in vain for Brucknerian influences, however: this is clearly music of the Brahmsian/classical school, reflecting no doubt the composer's prior period of study under Bernhard Scholz who had been conductor of the Orchestral Society in Caro's home town of Breslau/Wrocław since 1871.

Caro's Piano Trio in E major, Op.8 also dates from his Vienna period; a later copy of the score carries a dedication to Bruckner. If anything the writing here is even more generous than in the Violin Sonata; it really is a most gorgeous work, the arching melodies ravishing in their allure. The playing here fully realises the shining beauty of Caro's writing.
  I suppose that one might sense Bruckner's influence if one thinks of the arching themes of his 7th Symphony, but there's no real hint of Wagnerian harmony here.

More on the Cello Sonata later...

I am also extremely grateful to eschiss1 for pointing me to this release.
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Wheesht on Wednesday 28 February 2024, 18:53
I am happy to read that, Alan. My copy is on its way from Poland and now I am even more looking forward to receiving it.

On a trip to Vienna two weeks ago, I visited the excellent Gramola shop on the 'Graben' and bought a copy of the double CD with music by students of Bruckner. It will be interesting to compare the two recordings of Caro's Piano Trio.
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Alan Howe on Wednesday 28 February 2024, 19:03
My copy of the Gramola 2-CD set is on its way!
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 29 February 2024, 12:04
The Cello Sonata in D minor, Op.42 from 1910 is a more serious, assertive work, but the same qualities are evident here, namely glorious arching themes.

Cellists ought to be queuing up to play this magnificent work. I haven't heard anything quite so inspiring for this combination of instruments since I encountered Draeseke's Cello Sonata many moons ago.

Now I wonder what his symphonies are like. According to the SPMK booklet, they're unpublished. The Austrian National Library has a large collection of scores, including his Symphony in C minor, Berg-Symphonie and Symphony in D major (all undated). There are also a number of symphonic poems.

This link is to page 1 of their listing (there are 183 entries):
https://search.onb.ac.at/primo-explore/search?institution=43ACC_ONB&vid=ONB&tab=default_tab&search_scope=ONB_gesamtbestand&mode=basic&displayMode=full&bulkSize=25&highlight=true&dum=true&displayField=all&query=any,contains,Paul%20caro&offset=0
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: tpaloj on Thursday 29 February 2024, 12:38
Quote from: Alan Howe on Thursday 29 February 2024, 12:04Now I wonder what his symphonies are like. According to the SPMK booklet, they're unpublished. The Austrian National Library has a large collection of scores, including his Symphony in C minor, Berg-Symphonie and Symphony in D major (all undated). There are also a number of symphonic poems.
Very interesting. But as for the symphonies, it seems to me they only have the instrument parts for them, right? I wonder where the full scores are. It's not impossible to reconstruct a score from a set of parts, but it can be unreliable, often enough, especially if sloppy copyists have been involved in copying out the parts in the first place.
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 29 February 2024, 13:17
Yes: the C minor Symphony has '45 Stimmen' (45 parts), the 'Berg-Symphonie' '41 Stimmen', and the D major Symphony '58 Stimmen'.

The booklet notes accompanying the SPMK CD state that the symphonies (presumably the C minor and D major?) are early, but were performed in Berlin and Vienna, so there ought to be full scores somewhere.
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 29 February 2024, 15:48
Having just listened to Caro's Piano Trio (from the Homage à Paul Caro recording) I can only echo everything Alan has written about it's appeal and quality. It's very seldom that one comes across a work by such an unsung composer which couples such generous melodic richness with a firm grasp of form. It's a real delight and I'm very much looking forward to hearing the two companion sonatas. One does indeed wonder what the symphonies might be like but if they echo the characteristics of the Piano Trio then maybe something resembling Goetz's sole Symphony might be expected?
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Thursday 29 February 2024, 19:05
Maybe a message to the ONB will help in locating the full scores. They might be able to help.
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 29 February 2024, 20:08
I have rarely met such wonderful generosity of spirit in an unfamiliar composer and I'm still wondering whether this was Bruckner's real legacy.
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Thursday 29 February 2024, 20:52
Quote(there are 183 entries):

Yes, Alan, but only 104 are music scores. The rest are records for works by authors who have "Paul" or "Caro" in their names and have nothing to do with music, as far as I can see. Still 104 is encouraging.
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 29 February 2024, 22:02
Oops, apologies. I shouldn't have been speed-searching for the symphonies.
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 29 February 2024, 22:07
My copy of the Gramola 2-CD set arrived today. As far as I can judge, Caro really is the stand-out composer featured here. Not that there's nothing else of interest, but Caro's lyricism is so beguiling that it's hard not to be attracted back to his music. I'd be tempted to dub him 'Cantabile Caro', but I suspect someone's already thought of that or something like it.
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: semloh on Friday 08 March 2024, 09:47
SPMK has uploaded what appears to be the whole of Hommage à Paul Caro to YT. It's beautiful music.
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Martin Eastick on Thursday 26 September 2024, 13:31
Has anyone here managed to obtain the actual CD issued by SPMK "Hommage à Paul Caro" rather than a download. The link posted here previously seems to take to me to a page showing the artwork (presumably) of the CD in question, but that is far as I can get. Their website doesn't seem to be particularly helpful!
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Wheesht on Thursday 26 September 2024, 13:37
They require payment by bank transfer, the cost is 40.00 Euro, postage included. I can provide bank account details in a PM.
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Maury on Friday 27 September 2024, 00:45
I agree abut the song like character of Caro's music; it's quite lovely. I wonder if he was a string player rather than a pianist given 34! string quartets  (is that right?}. Also listening to short samples his string writing seemed more assured than the piano part to my ears.
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Tartini on Sunday 21 December 2025, 19:00
A new release featuring Paul Caro's String Quintets will be released tomorrow, December 22. :)  https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/9838695--paul-caro-string-quintets?srsltid=AfmBOoqLkuQSPFj9tRBOfjEXuCKSmv9qJyH-SnUXnlCXRbqYRgqlgCu_
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 21 December 2025, 19:19
Thanks!!
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 25 December 2025, 16:09
Like the previous releases of Caro's chamber music these quintets receive persuasive and sympathetic performances, but I found that my reactions to them differ. The Second String Quintet comes across as possessing all the qualities that made the music in the earlier recordings so endearing: an abundance of lyricism, almost over-generous melodically, but never meandering and with plenty of incident and momentum in the faster movements. Gemütlich, without being cloying or sentimental. For me at least, the First Quintet lacks something - maybe it's the quality of the melody, maybe the harmonic language doesn't have the warmth of the Second, perhaps it's a little more "academic", I don't know, but it somehow lacks the appeal of Caro's Piano Trio or the String Quartet.
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 03 January 2026, 23:17
that's the B-flat minor quartet, right? I just uploaded the parts as digitized by SBB to IMSLP recently, I think... (I know Op.7 is the 2nd of a pair starting with Op.6, but I forget if it's his 2nd string quartet entirely.)
Title: Re: In regards Paul Caro (1859-1914)
Post by: semloh on Friday 09 January 2026, 02:41
Quote from: Mark Thomas on Thursday 25 December 2025, 16:09For me at least, the First Quintet lacks something - maybe it's the quality of the melody, maybe the harmonic language doesn't have the warmth of the Second, perhaps it's a little more "academic",

That reflects my reactions too, Mark. To my ear the first quintet includes clear echoes of the great Schubert C minor quintet, especially in the use of pizzicato; and, there are phrases that sound like quotations from both that work and Dvorak. That said, there's no mention in the liner notes of any such links - so maye it's just me!  ;D