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The Music => Composers & Music => Topic started by: kolaboy on Thursday 14 November 2024, 01:09

Title: Holst: Phantastes Suite (1911)
Post by: kolaboy on Thursday 14 November 2024, 01:09
No idea if this has been mentioned before, but this intriguing bit from Holst's largely forgotten suite makes me want to hear the rest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0LB-Du-9Kw&ab_channel=BrunoLima
Title: Re: Holst: Phantastes Suite (1911)
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 14 November 2024, 01:17
Phantastes as in, inspired by George MacDonald's novel (pub.1858)? (I've been reading it, but didn't know there was any music based on it.)
Title: Re: Holst: Phantastes Suite (1911)
Post by: kolaboy on Thursday 14 November 2024, 01:53
Not sure of the inspiration behind the piece. I don't even recall it being mentioned in Imogen's biography...
Title: Re: Holst: Phantastes Suite (1911)
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 14 November 2024, 13:34
A quick check reveals it was written in response to Dukas... and a book about Imogen Holst says "But nothing would have persuaded her to allow the disastrous Phantastes suite of 1911 to see the light of day (apart from its slow movement, of which she was rather fond.)" (Foreword, p.xv, "Imogen Holst: A Life in Music".) (1912 reviews of performances of the suite do not seem to agree with the editor about the adjective "disastrous".)
Title: Re: Holst: Phantastes Suite (1911)
Post by: Alan Howe on Thursday 14 November 2024, 14:21
There's another Dukas-Holst link. Anyone know what it is (no prizes)?
Title: Re: Holst: Phantastes Suite (1911)
Post by: Gareth Vaughan on Friday 15 November 2024, 13:24
This slim PDF may be of interest: https://www.snc.edu/northwind/documents/By_work/Phantastes/Gustav_Holst_and_George_MacDonald_-_R.B._Shaberman.pdf (https://www.snc.edu/northwind/documents/By_work/Phantastes/Gustav_Holst_and_George_MacDonald_-_R.B._Shaberman.pdf)

Also this superficial and rather "undergraduate" posting: https://doublebassing.wordpress.com/2015/06/30/think-youre-a-failure-we-call-that-pulling-a-holst/ (https://doublebassing.wordpress.com/2015/06/30/think-youre-a-failure-we-call-that-pulling-a-holst/)

Colin Matthews, writing in The Musical Times, Vol. 125, No. 1695 (May, 1984), pp. 269+271-272 'Some Unknown Holst', makes a passing and dismissive reference to the suite: "In spite of the achievement of Savitri, Holst was still capable of misjudgements, notably the disastrous orchestral suite Phantastes (1911)..." but says no more about it.  The article can be read on JSTOR.