Unsung Composers

The Music => Recordings & Broadcasts => Topic started by: Alan Howe on Saturday 23 August 2025, 17:21

Title: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 23 August 2025, 17:21
A 2-CD set:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/oskar-c-posa-lieder-violin-sonata/hnum/12281658

His dates: 1873-1951. Information about the composer here: https://www.flaneriesreims.com/en/evenements/lincroyable-destin-doskar-posa-compositeur-oublie/
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Wheesht on Saturday 23 August 2025, 17:46
Thanks. How interesting. A name that was utterly unfamiliar to me before – as is the label.
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 23 August 2025, 17:56
Intriguing. Well, we shall see in September.
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 23 August 2025, 21:47
Here's the finale of the Violin Sonata (pub. 1902 and dedicated to Grieg), played by the same artists as on the new recording:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASsA8GFM4GY&list=RDASsA8GFM4GY&start_radio=1&rv=ASsA8GFM4GY

The second subject is stunning...

Btw the composer's original surname was Posamentir.
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Simon on Sunday 24 August 2025, 14:24
Here's a podcast (in French) on Posa, including other excerpts that should appear on the upcoming recording.

https://www.couacs.info/p/sur-les-traces-dun-compositeur-disparu?fbclid=IwZnRzaAMX8PJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHlR1IcUfkecocwGREQOPohuu_5RMnf3GBT4Jxsc9U9rNwyIHDCzJdbZaXaMv_aem_FNW6DCgOQ1JC6HADGiZy8A
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 24 August 2025, 14:44
Many thanks! It seems that Posa was well-known among his fellow composers, but has been totally forgotten. He was Jewish, of course.
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Simon on Sunday 24 August 2025, 15:10
One more (too short, but sumptuous) excerpt from the first movement of his Violin Sonata :

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/178PcEe1Y9/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Simon on Sunday 24 August 2025, 19:44
Olivier Lalane, artistic director and producer at the new record label Voilà (the record label releasing Posa's music), said during another podcast that coming projects for the label include recordings of music by Alfred Bachelet (1864-1944) and Paul Dupin (1865-1949).

https://www.instagram.com/voilarecords/
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 25 August 2025, 10:57
Quote from: Alan Howe on Saturday 23 August 2025, 21:47Here's the finale of the Violin Sonata [...] The second subject is stunning...
If this movement is anything to go by, Posa is a very welcome rediscovery. It's real quality music.
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: 4candles on Monday 25 August 2025, 15:31
For those interested, Posa's musical legacy is housed in the Vienna City Library and includes chiefly lieder (some with orchestral accompaniment), orchestral songs, some works for orchestra, and a few chamber and piano works. Much of this material is in manuscript.

Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Alan Howe on Tuesday 26 August 2025, 11:16
Thanks, that's very helpful.
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: olivierlalane on Sunday 14 September 2025, 16:09
Dear music lovers, thank you for your kind words and curiosity about Posa's music. The recording is now available on all streaming and download platforms, and will soon be released in physical format on September 19.

I warmly encourage you to have a look at the booklet, the result of five years of research, which sheds light on this utterly unknown figure — a life both fascinating and full of twists, at once joyful and tragic.

Among other things, the booklet reveals how the Violin Sonata collapsed at its premiere — nothing short of a catastrophe — and how the career of the one once hailed as "the great hope of the Viennese Lied" gradually veered toward conducting, shaped by encounters and events with Schoenberg, Mahler, and Zemlinsky. I truly believe he is well worth rediscovering!
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 04 October 2025, 11:10
There is no doubt in my mind that this is very important music. The Violin Sonata is hyper-romantic: chromatic, certainly, but nothing like as densely so as, say, Reger. The melodies are simply breathtaking. Not only is the performance evidently superb, but the sonics are beyond reproach. And then we have the presentation in a classy hardback book containing all the information about the composer's life and compositions that one might wish for. Luxury indeed.

An absolutely stunning release. I hope it sells really well.

Download now available here:
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/9810253--oskar-c-posa-lieder-violin-sonata-string-quartet
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Febct on Saturday 04 October 2025, 23:32
Is the physical CD available?  Cannot locate it presently.
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Droosbury on Sunday 05 October 2025, 00:42
I bought mine via jpc. As Alan says, the book it comes with is exceptional so I thoroughly recommend getting on CD if you can.

Only played through once so far, but the music is undeniably strong - the string quartet and Lieder in particular - the latter, as a critic said at the time, being like virtuoso piano pieces with vocal accompaniment - a really striking approach. Fascinating to hear his setting of Schliesse Mir die Augen Beide, better known as one (or rather two!) of Alban Berg's loveliest songs. I would love to hear his orchestral works: perhaps this enterprising release may soon prompt some adventurous conductor.
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: John Boyer on Sunday 05 October 2025, 03:25
Quote from: Febct on Saturday 04 October 2025, 23:32Is the physical CD available?  Cannot locate it presently.
As Droosebury noted, you can get it from JPC, but if you live in the US you'll need an alternative source since JPC no longer ships to the States.  I saw it on Amazon.fr, but if you are in the US you'll need to see if they too have suspended US delivery.  Presto, as far as I can tell, doesn't have it.  (Aside: I ordered from Presto today for the first time in ages and winced at the shipping costs: 3 times as high as JPC.)

Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Wheesht on Sunday 05 October 2025, 07:51
It may be worth contacting the label (https://voila-records.com/#contact) directly to find out how best to obtain a CD.
Fnac also have it, but what their shipping costs are is another question.
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 05 October 2025, 10:07
Here's the link to the CDs at jpc:
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/oskar-c-posa-lieder-violin-sonata/hnum/12281658


Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Mark Thomas on Sunday 05 October 2025, 10:51
The whole album can be heard in full on YouTube here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsY5LxCu_Gw&list=OLAK5uy_nKq6RarP5g6sEgLKbB8CPcez7dTUbMqY0&index=2).
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Droosbury on Sunday 05 October 2025, 11:32
Just to heap praise on Olivier Lalane, the driving force behind this project (and who commented above). He and the artists here have brought vivid musical life to an earlier academic thesis by Wolfgang Behrens and his excellent booklet notes do a magnificent job of turning Pisa from an obscure footnote in the biographies of Schoenberg and Zemlinsky into a pivotal figure in Viennese music c1905 - and one whose creativity was cruelly tested by history. It's all fascinating stuff and an exemplary way of bringing an Unsung to wider notice.
Title: Re: Oskar Posa String Quartet/Violin Sonata/Lieder
Post by: Alan Howe on Sunday 05 October 2025, 13:53
That's an excellent summary of a superbly presented recording project.