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and here another great unfinished symphony movement from Robert Schumann!

https://youtu.be/h5w-czK_p7M?si=BmvN8xpelJU4rf0B

From the same year he wrote the 4th symphony ... Any thoughts?

The youth symphony by Schumann by now is quite known - but only the first 2 movements. I now have completed also movements 3 - 4 :  A short but very vivid Scherzo and an awesome Finale. Schumann planned this Finale real big - with a majestic fugue in the introduction and a furious folowing Allegro. Unfortuneately he failed to work this fugue out which may be the reason why he abandoned this project.
Here you may listen to these movements as I realised them (read the description of the video for further informations):

https://youtu.be/5UW3fYT0-qA?si=yITopEDxHjni4YhP

I recently made a beautiful discovery: in 1832 Schumann wrote an unfinished symphony in g-minor of which the first movement - I think - is really great - full of furious power. What do you think of this work? Why did he not finish it? https://youtu.be/6Kvw_xiDL4k?si=md9re4Hay6mu4w7Z

GREAT - finally it has been performed and recorded by Gernot Schmalfuss... !! Fantastic, especially the 1st movement, but also the other are just wonderful!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFrPZxRUlxM

Yes, by this I video I first read of this draft 2 weeks ago. But this does not really sound well to my ears, so I tried to do my own orchestration... I have no idea, why this draft is so ignored - especially now when Mahler has become so popular in the recent decades...

Could you supply more information about this manuscript, please?

See https://symposium.music.org/24/item/1964-mahlers-sketches-for-a-scherzo-in-c-minor-and-a-presto-in-f-major.html

Hi, in the last 2 weeks I had the joy to find an uncompleted draft by Mahler for a Scherzo in c-minor - of course I could not resist and made an attempt to complete it - what do you think?

https://youtu.be/DbMBdo8odVU?si=g1JInH9h2GTkiS3G

Gerd

in the years 1822 - 1825 Beethoven wrote several sketches for an overture on the  notes B-A-C-H. This inspired me to write an own overture on these fascinating 4 notes (as also others like Bach himself, Schumann, Lizst, ... have also tried). Beethoven's sketches I marked with yellow in the score - I hope you will like it ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jF1CNsXj7c


Gerd

For me quite a spectacular discovery is Beethoven's draft for the exposition for a concerto movement for Violin, Cello and Orchestra from 1802 ! Here is my attempt to work this out to a full movement:

- see more explanations there ...

Greetings, Gerd

I would like to inform you that I made a new version of this project with an additional sketch by Mendelssohn for a transition to the 2nd theme which I think is very exciting! The tempo of the Andante is a bit faster now. Generally the sound quality is improved.

https://youtu.be/bqEAUr4XmeI?si=56-Czhy6xCSa7IPK

I hope you will like it as I do ...
Gerd

It seems to me that this arrangement by A. Stein is maybe even better:

I'd like to present to you my version of the Scherzo and the finale of the "Unfinished". If you think that the Unfinished is complete and perfect as it is then you are right, but then you can please consider these movements just on their own...

I orchestrated the main part from Schubert's piano reduction and completed the Trio of which only the begining was sketched by Schubert with a few bars  of the melodic line. I love this Scherzo - it is powerful, passionate and melodious !

Regarding the Finale I also believe as others that Schubert took the original finale and used it for the balett music Rosamunde as this work lacks the drive and the flow to be fitting for a symphonic finale. Schubert changed the original title "Allegro moderato" (like the 1st movement) of this work later on even to "Allegro molto moderato" in the Rosamunde score which is even more unfitting for a finale. So I did some adjustments to give this movement more flow and dynamics (see the yellow markings in the score):

I am very excited about the result ...

Gerd

Nice to hear, Gerd, thank you    in fact I started transcribing the Andante last year, but left it around 2/3 done. In fact I completely forgot about it... Now is probably a good time to finish it, so stay tuned! I'll post about it here soon.

Oh, I am VERY much looking forward to it   

Is Mr. Paul any relation to Frank Paul Lachner?

No, he is still alive - in Vancouver ;-)

Yes Eric, we've established the Andante was the first version of the 6th symphony's slow movement, later replaced by a different slow movement. I was just theorizing if Lachner might have had plans to include it in the 7th symphony later on.

Dear tpaloj, lately I am so very much enjoying especially the first movement of the 7th symphony (or 7th suite) - with its passionate and powerful main theme and its most lovely second theme - wonderful (but I like also the Scherzo and the final Fugue)!!
Now I read of this Andante in D-Major - did you record that also by now? If not I may like to do that (at least the begining to get an idea ...).

Gerd