Early d'Albert Piano Concerto in A found

Started by Rex Stultorum, Sunday 24 June 2018, 17:21

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Ilja

The G major was apparently written by him at age 10. It's not listed as lost, so the fact that everyone ignored it may say something about its quality?

FBerwald

The G major exists in complete manuscript as far as I can deduct from the articles on the net. The fact that something is ignored for so long doesn't always translate into its quality. 

giles.enders

In 2012 I met with a descendant of Eugene d'Albert. It was they who told me about the early concerto in G major which is in Dresden. In their opinion it was of curiosity value only. For completists it might be worth recording but otherwise is best left to scholars.


semloh

Quote from: giles.enders on Monday 12 September 2022, 10:58Despite numerous requests for its return he has held on to it.
Trying to be positive, could that signal an intention to work on it?

tuatara442442

Now if it is possible to get a photocopy from Library of Congress, this work could be realized digitally......

promusician

Quote from: tuatara442442 on Thursday 10 July 2025, 15:45Now if it is possible to get a photocopy from Library of Congress, this work could be realized digitally......

At least, I am actually requesting for it a month ago. So maybe I or Darrel will start a fundraising to accumulate the costs for acquisition of the score, estimated at about $1.5 * 400 = 600, plus $60 research cost, totaling at $660. If anyone interested...

Darrel Hoffman

Do we know anyone here in or near Berlin?  (Or was it Dresden?  Wherever this library is.)  It might be a lot cheaper to have someone visit the library in person and take a bunch of scans with a phone camera.  I don't need it to be pristine ultra-high res archival quality as long as it's generally readable.

promusician

Quote from: Darrel Hoffman on Wednesday 16 July 2025, 15:50Do we know anyone here in or near Berlin?  (Or was it Dresden?  Wherever this library is.)  It might be a lot cheaper to have someone visit the library in person and take a bunch of scans with a phone camera.  I don't need it to be pristine ultra-high res archival quality as long as it's generally readable.

This is in Library of Congress, Washington D.C.

Darrel Hoffman

Oh, I must be thinking of something else we were looking for that was in Germany somewhere.  Well is there anyone near D.C. then?  Because $660 is kind of a tall order for 1 manuscript especially when we don't even know if it's any good, I feel like there must be a way to bring that down a bit.  I think a round trip ticket from where I am (Florida) plus a night in a hotel would actually cost less (not that I'm volunteering for that).  I'm just hoping there might be someone closer who might be willing to do us a favor.

eschiss1

No. I'm occasionally near NYC and more often near Cornell U Library, though my scanning ability is nominal.

Gareth Vaughan

The early G major concerto is in Dresden (according to Giles); the A major concerto is in L.ofC.

Ilja

Can you tell me where in Dresden? It's not in the Deutsche Komponistenarchiv.

eschiss1

When I hear Dresden in this connection, my own first thought is @ SLUB Dresden, which is a huge library (which fortunately was apparently not badly damaged in the Allied bombing- there are works there, including contemporary copies of Bach and Vivaldi works, that do not, I think, exist in other copies or in originals, and in general SLUB is a trove. With huge footprint of digitized works.)

eschiss1

Concertos, fragments, Op.9, G minor. (1874) - there: yes, it's at SLUB. (Not G major!) Note the downloadable link on the right. If that's not what was looked for, will try again.

Also Fragments, Op.104, F major this too.

Darrel Hoffman

Hmm, the word "fragments" has me concerned a bit.  I took a look, and it's 1.) Just the piano part, no orchestra, and 2.) the middle movement is clearly unfinished, just a few bars at the beginning and end, nothing in between.  I don't know if this piece was ever completed, but there's not really enough there for me to use.