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If that's a response to that article, none of us wrote it...

Back when I was attempting to compose, I remember hearing one of Beethoven's cello works in concert, had never heard it before, rondo tune stuck. I soon forgot who wrote it and some years later (just) started  writing the opening of a piano quintet on a very similar theme, thinking it mine (after checking it wasn't by the composers who it brought to mind. Then I heard the Beethoven on the radio and that was that. So yep.

another, this time post-Mahler 4 unlike my other examples, example is Melartin 4 (1912) (well-ok, 3 solo voices, but you mentioned Nielsen 3 which has 2.)

There are certainly examples before Mahler 4 without calling works symphony that don't have that title or subtitle (and the Ring is not for -solo voice- and orchestra at any rate.
Bantock's Christus symphony, published in 1900 (the year Mahler began his 4th), also qualifies. (Sibelius' Kullervo (1891-2) has chorus, so not so much...)

Thanks indeed.

I have the score of symphony no.3 in D-flat major (finale in, and ends in, C# minor) on my table borrowed from U. Houston. (edited)

at least in the US one can download the Sterling recording of Hermann's symphonies for $9.49. I am very much a fan of the rather stark 2nd.

"Crickets? I thought you said critics!"

Actually, in the Wellesz and similar works the 3rd movement obviously -is- the finale...

I would think a comparison with a middle-period Reger work, eg violin sonata 4 in C or 5 in f#, which are substantially more "rebarbative" than sonatas 8 or 9, might also be enlightening...

That unintended 3 movement form - Moderate Scherzo Slow- led to successors itself (think Egon Wellesz' first and 6th-9th.)

If there's a solution, it isn't to remove all the chromaticism and stay in the white notes of the piano (though Prokofiev had some interesting success building themes with that in a few 1920s-30s works, eg Fiery Angel and the op.50 quartet...)

How's the quality of the download as it appeared on our board years ago, compared to YouTube?

I thought the Fleisher Collection mostly rented to orchestras but would be glad to be wrong.

I seem to recall we may have discussed another recording of Kralik's trio some while back??