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Title: Swedish music
Post by: cjvinthechair on Sunday 04 September 2011, 15:43
Can't tell you how much I enjoy browsing this site, finding many composers quite unknown to me, more details on those I'm just beginning to learn a little about, and of course the marvellous downloads section.
Since a good few of my new composer acquaintances are Swedish, I looked amongst the download topics for a Swedish section, but unless I'm being even dimmer than usual, haven't spotted one. So much else IS up there that I wonder if there's some good reason for its absence, or maybe I can prevail on someone to start one.
Many thanks to everyone who, however unwittingly, is contributing to my belated musical education. It's a joy, really, to visit the site !
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 04 September 2011, 18:17
I think there are some recordings of unrecorded Swedish works (and recorded works in unavailable performances) out there, so such a folder could be started. I've heard a really good Segerstam broadcast of Pettersson's 4th symphony myself (my digitized version is incomplete though I might be able to fix that at some point), also a violin concerto by a Melcher Melchers (1882-1961), some other things I think...
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Sunday 04 September 2011, 22:28
"a Melcher Melchers" - Eric do I understand you rightly: do you have a recording of Melcher's Concerto? I ADORE him! His String Quartet op 17 is one of the finest pieces of scandinavian chamber music I know. A lot of Franck and Ravel is obvious but I am probably the only one who detects hints of Malipiero as well. Nevertheless, this is a gorgeous piece. The Sonatas for violin and cello are also fine. Haven't heard his Symphony yet though I have a broadcast from SR2 with Tor Mann somewhere I think. He was the teacher of Erland von Koch who liked him very much.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: X. Trapnel on Monday 05 September 2011, 04:44
Melcher Melcher's Symphony in D minor and Piano Concerto no. 2 are available on Phono Suecia (PSCD 717); I haven't heard them in a while but will do so now.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 07 September 2011, 13:54
Re the Melchers violin concerto- I find I do have a digitized version , lacking performer information, after all; and as I listened I remembered, it's wonderful and distinctive (the main finale theme and its harmonization for example.) Especially if I can find information on who's performing (I may have that somewhere...) and assuming I haven't missed an available recording of it somewhere (maybe under Svensson instead of Melchers) I'll upload it...
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Wednesday 07 September 2011, 18:45
CPO is working its way through a cycle of Natanael Berg's symphonies. The only one of Berg's five which has not been recorded at all is, I believe, No.5 "Trilogia delle passioni".

CPO is also shortly(?) about on embark on a cycle of Edvin Kallstenius's five symphonies.

...but what we don't have anywhere yet are Hilding Rosenberg's Symphonies Nos. 1, 7 and 8..........
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: lechner1110 on Thursday 08 September 2011, 23:52

  Hello Dundonnell

  I have the recording of Natanael Berg's 5th.
  This recording is old archive of swedish radio, but sound is not so bad. 

  I recorded archive of swedish radio from this spring.
 
  Example
  Karl-Birger Blomdahl, Symfoniska danser (Symphonic dances)
  Moses Pergament, Piano concerto
  Sixten Eckerberg: Piano Concerto No. 1 (1943)
  Adolf Wiklund: Symphony (1922)
  Stig Rybrant: Symphony no.1 e-moll (1940)
 

  I will upload in future.


  Best
  A.S
 
 
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Friday 09 September 2011, 13:17
Look forward to that :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Monday 12 September 2011, 02:33
Thank you very much for Natanael Berg's Symphony No.5 :)

...and for Hilding Rosenberg's 5th :)

I have the Rosenberg in the old recording made by the composer in 1944. It is fantastic to hear it now in modern sound quality ;D
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: cjvinthechair on Monday 12 September 2011, 15:51
 :) Terrific - Swedish music downloads lives ! Many thanks - hope perhaps folk will find many more.      Clive.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: semloh on Monday 12 September 2011, 22:46
A.S. Thank you for Berg's 5th symphony - powerful stuff!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 15 September 2011, 14:46
Surprisingly, Big Ben Music (which also recorded Tubin's 7th symphony I recall not as part of a complete set...) has a recording of Eckerberg's 1st concerto (opus 5) and 3rd (different performing forces though. Available via Amazon in the US.)  First concerto movement listings given as Allegro moderato - Lento - Allegro spiritoso.

Also, I gather from a Worldcat search that the violist's name is Renzo Sabatini, not Sabatina. :) Sabatini has edited a lot of viola works from the classical era. And I agree- thank you very much indeed!!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 15 September 2011, 15:28
Also, the movement headings of the Rybrant symphony 1 are (courtesy of FreeLibrary of Philadelphia (http://catalog.freelibrary.org))
1: Andante, ma molto sostenuto - Allegro moderato
2: Andante sostenuto
3: Allegro vivace con spirito.

Instrumentation is given as (in the usual shorthand)
2-fl (1-pc, II), 2-ob, 2-cl, 2-bn, 4-hn, 3-tpt, 3-trb, 1-tb, tmp, prc, hp, str.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 18 September 2011, 13:46
Thanks for adding to the info on the Rosenberg concerto - appreciated!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Greg K on Sunday 18 September 2011, 20:13
Quote from: A.S on Thursday 15 September 2011, 00:10
  
  Hilding Rosenberg: Violakonsert (1942)   

    http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?l06pp3taxgbii92 (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?l06pp3taxgbii92)

  Solist: Renzo Sabatina
    Orkester (detail unknown)
  Conductor: Carlo Maria Giulini.
    Recording 1946.


   Broadcast at 5.Sep.2011 from Swedish radio


This recording is the 1945 version of Rosenberg's Concerto with Renzo Sabatini & the Rome Radio Orchestra.  Tempo designations are:

I     Moderato - Allegro assai
II    Andante
III   Allegro Energico
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 23 September 2011, 10:13
Thanks, Dave, for uploading Pettersson 7 in such an excellent radio broadcast. Much appreciated!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Amphissa on Friday 23 September 2011, 14:24

Note the date of the performance/broadcast. Just last weekend. Both the audio and the performance are excellent to my ears.

Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 23 September 2011, 17:24
By the way there have been two broadcast performances of Pettersson 7 in the last month, I think, both may be still available online if one "acts fast"- the recent BBC Radio 3 one (Scottish Symphony) and an older one on P2 Sweden broadcast on August 29th (and still online for maybe 5 or 6 more days? -- unless the weekend interferes though it shouldn't, 9-29 is in the middle of the week; in other cases it does) - at Klassisk formiddag (http://sverigesradio.se/sida/sandningsarkiv.aspx?programid=2480&date=2011-08-29) (see the bottom of the page. you may need the right software to hear this, of course...) - a  2009 performance conducted by violinist-conductor Tobias Ringborg, Helsingborgs symfoniorkester at the Helsingborg Concerthouse. Should probably be in the Radio Broadcasts forum (though can be used to extract something for the Downloads forum, possibly- don't know. Don't know of a CD release of that recording, anyway. Don't think I knew of the Kofman performance. Thanks! Kofman's name rings a bell- I believe I recall a very positive review of a Shostakovich CD of his in Fanfare awhile back, and between Pettersson's muse and Shostakovich I hear some kinship...)
Eric
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 25 September 2011, 17:41
Also, as to the Wiklund, movement headings on the tracks are always appreciated if reasonable to obtain (I've been trying for the Hiller but for the time being admit I've given up. For now. This though took me 5 seconds :) :) ) (at least, if they're for the same revision of the works) - but here they are at least according to a recent CD (and according to CDUniverse - Westerberg and Panula conducted recordings)-
Wiklund concerto no.1 in E minor, Opus 10-
I. Allegro energico
II. Andante ma non troppo
III. Allegro vivace

Wiklund concerto no.2 in B minor, Opus 17-
1. Allegro moderato - (attacca?)
2. Andante sostenuto
3. Allegro ma non troppo

(ok, I see the 2010 version has, though the 1959 version doesn't, for concerto 1, and concerto 2 does. Spoke much too soon. Sorry :) :) )
Symphony - Op.20, ?

from a 1923 Swedish Journal of Musicology about the Wiklund symphony op.20 someone wrote-
"Den hade den egendomligheten att sakna egentlig final; som sådan fick den scherzo-artade tredje satsen gälla."
"three movements" or "third movement" I get, scherzo-something, the rest...

Thanks for the uploads- of course and no less so for any gripes- and looking forward to hearing them. (I think I've heard the first concerto in the Westerberg recording years ago-relative to my early middle age- on an at the time much better US radio station. Not since. Didn't know my luck in hearing such things so paid it less attention than I might have...)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 30 September 2011, 18:49
The Stenhammar 3 recording I uploaded, I'm almost positive from my memory of taping it anyway, is not the one from the 1980s session they recorded for LP, but a 1958 concert broadcast that contained Stenhammar, Shostakovich and Beethoven played by the Borodin quartet of the time (different constitution- Dubinsky etc. ...) - see Euroclassic Notturno (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/euroclassicnotturno/playlist050210.shtml) February 10 2005. Recorded in Stockholm also. Have uploaded ZIP files of the quartets 3 (attempted to. failed. trying again - ok, apparently had to double compress - .zip.gz - it for it to upload - if that's a problem I will try something else...) and 4 of Stenhammar to the respective folders for somewhat easier downloading... (as against 10, 21 files apiece...)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Amphissa on Friday 30 September 2011, 21:14
Quote from: eschiss1 on Friday 23 September 2011, 17:24
By the way there have been two broadcast performances of Pettersson 7 in the last month, I think, both may be still available online if one "acts fast"- the recent BBC Radio 3 one (Scottish Symphony) and an older one on P2 Sweden broadcast on August 29th (and still online for maybe 5 or 6 more days? .......
Eric

Maybe someone would be so kind as to upload one or both of these performances. I'd be interested in hearing the nuances different conductors/orchestras bring to Pettersson's music.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: lechner1110 on Saturday 01 October 2011, 00:16
  Dear Amphissa and eschiss1

  I recorded many broadcasts of Swedish radio.
  But I forgot to record  Pettersson 7 at 8.29.
  Sorry!


  A.S
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: semloh on Saturday 01 October 2011, 11:23
A.S. - thank you for uploading the Wiklund. It's the first time I've heard his music, and I am just amazed that these beautiful compositions are so rarely heard. They are a real treat.
:)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 01 October 2011, 12:34
anytime between 8/29 and 9/29 would have worked I think - hopefully it will be broadcast again before too long.  Have discovered/had pointed out to me some other stations too that broadcast/webstream interesting stuff (Croatian Radio, Hungarian Radio...) - fortunately the list in another subforum here is in progress :D (sorry, tangent, that!)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 01 October 2011, 12:51
Thanks, A.S., for the upload of Norman's 2nd Symphony!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dylan on Monday 03 October 2011, 13:14
Wonderful to see the Okko Kamu recording of Pettersson 6 again; had the LP, foolishly sold it, never thought I'd see it again. The best performance yet, to my mind, of this terrifying work; many thanks!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Monday 03 October 2011, 14:55
Thank you very much for the Melchers Violin Concerto, Eric!!! :D
I like the quirky 3rd movement best but I have the feeling that he is not quite at home with writing for an orchestra. His tendency to meander dominates the first two movements, a tendency which is also obvious in the Piano Concerto. One tends to assume that he lacks dramatic sense but then there is this gorgeous string quartet...

I've tried to find a store which still offers the CD but couldn't find one, not even used.
It would look like this:
http://www.amazon.de/Streichquartette-G-Lysell-Quartett/dp/B000025478/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317649688&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.de/Streichquartette-G-Lysell-Quartett/dp/B000025478/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317649688&sr=8-1)

If the moderators agree I will upload my recording from Swedish radio which is taken from the CD.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Sicmu on Monday 03 October 2011, 17:04
Quote from: Dylan on Monday 03 October 2011, 13:14
Wonderful to see the Okko Kamu recording of Pettersson 6 again; had the LP, foolishly sold it, never thought I'd see it again. The best performance yet, to my mind, of this terrifying work; many thanks!

You are welcome, I also think the Kamu recording is better than the CPO one. I will  upload the 8+9 in the Commissiona recordings and the first recording of the 16th as well : the latter is especially interesting as the soloist of the new CPO recording made several changes to the original version.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 03 October 2011, 17:17
Cauthen's Pettersson site I think had reports that at one point there were efforts to reissue Kamu's recording of the 6th symphony but that they came close to fruition - I think- but only close, not quite. I'll give the Kamu recording another listen as it's wholly possible that my problems with the work result from overexposure to Trojahn's interpretation.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dylan on Tuesday 04 October 2011, 11:32
Do try the Kamu: it's one of those cases where Trojahn and his Berlin musicians dutifully (indeed heroically!) play all the notes, without the performance ever quite cohering or coming to life...whereas with Kamu it's less like listening to a performance of a symphony than to some kind of living, breathing entity struggling for life. Indeed Pettersson's music has always seemed to me to embody quite literally Nielsen's dictum about music being "the sound of life" - and at its most naked and exposed. The first time I heard the 6th there were moments where my body actually ran cold with a sense of dread - for example, a little figure for xylophone and piccolo about 20 mins in, which in the CPO performance just sounds like an interesting orchestral effect, but in Kamu's takes on an almost supernatural effect...if sounds from "the other side" ever reached us, I'm sure that would be one of them! The symphony as a whole communicates a sense of both the most terrible isolation and the struggle against it that I find more viscerally involving than almost any other music I know...
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 04 October 2011, 15:05
Certainly the stunning (in my honest opinion- I wish I had the whole broadcast digitized from my copy of the tape instead of having the last minute missing; I'd upload it in a trice) Segerstam broadcast of the A.P. 4th is one positive, excellent reminder of - a whole range of "such things"...
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 05 October 2011, 05:37
I haven't heard Frank's 1988 recording of the opus 40 Norman 2nd symphony (and the concert overture, etc.) for comparison but it's good to have the new broadcast of the symphony (and also the Pettersson, the Stenhammar works, etc. etc. ...! ) Thanks again.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 06 October 2011, 20:20
The "Melchers violin concerto" I attributed to Melchers on the basis of my memory of the material sent me with the tapes it arrived on- erm... ok, horrible grammar. I am informed it may actually be by Friedrich Mehler (1896-1981). At the moment I realize on reflection no reason to know who it's by at all- for example - searches for a Melchers violin concerto only turned up the claim that he wrote one in 1927, not anything more about it, nor whether or not it was published or who by - etc. ...- and I am putting the section on Mediafire in "private" and removing the link until this can be clarified some.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: violinconcerto on Thursday 06 October 2011, 20:26
I listened to your "Melchers" recording and I can say that it is the Mehler violin concerto No.2!

Best,
Tobias
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Thursday 06 October 2011, 20:37
Oh, how embarrassing - for me, I mean!  :-[ ;)
I even thought to hear some 'typical stylistic traits'...  ;D ;D ;D

Never heard of Mehler before, so thanks for a new Swedish(-German) composer! :D

Tobias, do YOU probably have a recording of the Melchers?
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: violinconcerto on Thursday 06 October 2011, 21:17
I unfortunately had to find out that "my" Melchers recording was the Mehler as well...  :(
So, no Melchers recording at all.

Best,
Tobias
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 06 October 2011, 22:07
at least we now know what it is (I'll make it public on mediafire again, and maybe move it to a different folder on mediafire and here - reposting/re-requesting moderation - soon. )
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Saturday 08 October 2011, 17:04
Does anyone out there possess a copy of the Caprice LP CAP1283 which contains Rosenberg's Symphony No.8 'Sinfonia Serena' and Cello Concerto No.2(Ola Karlsson(cello) with the Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra(Stig Westerberg), recorded in 1982/83?

This has never been transferred to cd and is the only recording of either work.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: M. Henriksen on Sunday 09 October 2011, 12:59
Quote from: eschiss1 on Sunday 25 September 2011, 17:41
from a 1923 Swedish Journal of Musicology about the Wiklund symphony op.20 someone wrote-
"Den hade den egendomligheten att sakna egentlig final; som sådan fick den scherzo-artade tredje satsen gälla."
"three movements" or "third movement" I get, scherzo-something, the rest...

The translation: "Wiklund's Symphony had the peculiarity of not having a real finale, the scherzo-like third movement had to fill that role."

Something like that!


Morten
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Sicmu on Sunday 09 October 2011, 16:59
Quote from: Dundonnell on Saturday 08 October 2011, 17:04
Does anyone out there possess a copy of the Caprice LP CAP1283 which contains Rosenberg's Symphony No.8 'Sinfonia Serena' and Cello Concerto No.2(Ola Karlsson(cello) with the Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra(Stig Westerberg), recorded in 1982/83?

This has never been transferred to cd and is the only recording of either work.

I have this LP and will upload it in a few days
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Monday 10 October 2011, 00:14
Quote from: Sicmu on Sunday 09 October 2011, 16:59
Quote from: Dundonnell on Saturday 08 October 2011, 17:04
Does anyone out there possess a copy of the Caprice LP CAP1283 which contains Rosenberg's Symphony No.8 'Sinfonia Serena' and Cello Concerto No.2(Ola Karlsson(cello) with the Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra(Stig Westerberg), recorded in 1982/83?

This has never been transferred to cd and is the only recording of either work.

I have this LP and will upload it in a few days

Bless you :) :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 00:04
Thanks! I've seen the score of the revised Rosenberg symphony 8 which I think is still at the local university library (did not know there was an earlier version with chorus- or a recording).
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 01:06
Thank you very much indeed for the Rosenberg Symphony No.8 and Cello Concerto No.2 :)

It really is quite astonishing that the man who was once hailed as the "Doyen of Swedish Composers"should still not have an integral symphonic cycle on cd.
Symphonies Nos. 1 and 7 have never even made it to disc. Neither has the Cello Concerto No.1 while the Violin Concerto No.1 is only available in an ancient recording conducted by the composer.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: erato on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 09:39
or that BIS when they at last did something, couldn't tthink of anything better than tto rerecord two otherwise available symhonies!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Holger on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 09:54
A while ago (shortly after the release of the BIS disc with Rosenberg's Symphonies Nos. 3&6) I asked BIS whether there are plans to record the rest of Rosenberg's symphonic cycle. Unfortunately, this is not the case, they said that they originally intended to do so but that for 'different reasons' (not specified any further) it wouldn't be possible.

I once got a disc with Rosenberg's Symphonies Nos. 1&7 from another collector, sadly the files appeared to be damaged so that I cannot help either.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: semloh on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 10:43
I checked whether I could upload from my old (but mint) Turnabout LP (Telefunken in Continental Europe) of Rosenberg's 6th Symphony... only to find that has been reissued on CD by Phono Suecia, along with the 3rd. Pity :(
Seems to me that these companies are determined to squeeze out every last drop of profit from the old recordings! >:(
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: semloh on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 10:48
Thank you for the details concerning the Mehler concerto, eschiss1! Great work. :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 13:57
Quote from: Holger on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 09:54
A while ago (shortly after the release of the BIS disc with Rosenberg's Symphonies Nos. 3&6) I asked BIS whether there are plans to record the rest of Rosenberg's symphonic cycle. Unfortunately, this is not the case, they said that they originally intended to do so but that for 'different reasons' (not specified any further) it wouldn't be possible.

I once got a disc with Rosenberg's Symphonies Nos. 1&7 from another collector, sadly the files appeared to be damaged so that I cannot help either.

I have written this before but your post just simply confirms it: for some reason Robert von Bahr, the owner of BIS, doesn't appear to like Rosenberg and since what he likes determines what BIS record Rosenberg is not likely to get much of a chance with that company :(

Frankly, I think it deplorable that a company which would like to claim to be the principal Swedish recording company should so blatantly cold-shoulder such a fine composer >:(

However BIS has also left it to the estimable CPO in Germany to record the symphonic cycles of composers such as Kurt Atterberg, Natanael Berg, Wilhelm Peterson-Berger, Ture Rangstrom and Dag Wiren (and shortly Edvin Kallstenius). BIS gave us Hugo Alfven, Karl-Birger Blomdahl, Lars-Erik Larsson and Gosta Nystroem and now seem to be intending to complete Allan Pettersson. If we are ever to get a Rosenberg cycle it will probably have to come from CPO.

The story, from way back, was that a conductor was hired to record some Rosenberg but 'didn't prove suitable'. Sounds implausible to me.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Sicmu on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 14:47
Quote from: semloh on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 10:43
I checked whether I could upload from my old (but mint) Turnabout LP (Telefunken in Continental Europe) of Rosenberg's 6th Symphony... only to find that has been reissued on CD by Phono Suecia, along with the 3rd. Pity :(
Seems to me that these companies are determined to squeeze out every last drop of profit from the old recordings! >:(

Actually by the time I bought this PhonoSuecia CD with Rosenberg 3+6  ( 15 years ago !) it was the only available recording of these works, so I was very happy to find it : I think it is a good idea to re-release material from the original tapes ( at a special price it is even better !), for instance if Melodiya would do so, a lot of treasures will resurface and become available to everyone.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Holger on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 18:41
Thanks a lot, britishcomposer, for your uploads of Rosenberg's Symphonies Nos. 1&7, so I got recordings of them at last! His Second Symphony was released on CD, one copy is available on Amazon Germany at the moment. I have been thinking about buying it myself but it costs €45 - though it's a rarity I am not sure whether I really want to spend that much on it at the moment.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 19:03
I have a tape of the LP (and the LP itself, bought at a local booksale) of Rosenberg 2 somewhere and may be able to digitize it (I don't have the digitizing hardware myself- will have to get the stuff together in one place at one time :D . Or see if I can somehow work out how to connect my remaining tape player up to my computer and simulate it, but never have managed it. Maybe Garageband does that but I doubt it! ) (Oh. reread your post. No, ok, digitizing that would -not- be a good idea, except for own use... I'm sure I have some other suitable tapes lying around though- hrm.)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Sicmu on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 19:28
I have the CD with Rosenberg 2 and will upload it :  I assume it is not against the policy of this forum to post discontinued CD's even if used ones are available (and some greedy sellers take advantage of the situation).
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 19:30
The Rosenberg Symphonies Nos. 1 and 7 now........ :) :) :)

Sometimes I think that I shall wake up and all this will just have been a dream ;D

Thank You!!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: shamokin88 on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 19:50
Shamokin88 here about Hilding Rosenberg. I have the 8th Symphony in its original context In Candidum although the sound is not especially particularly bright - a "swish" as if a tape was not flush against the playback head.. I have as well the London [Decca] LP of the 3rd [Stockholm PO/Tor Mann] recorded in 1953. Any interest?
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 19:56
Quote from: shamokin88 on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 19:50
Shamokin88 here about Hilding Rosenberg. I have the 8th Symphony in its original context In Candidum although the sound is not especially particularly bright - a "swish" as if a tape was not flush against the playback head.. I have as well the London [Decca] LP of the 3rd [Stockholm PO/Tor Mann] recorded in 1953. Any interest?

Yes :) :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: semloh on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 21:54
Quote from: Sicmu on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 14:47
Quote from: semloh on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 10:43
Seems to me that these companies are determined to squeeze out every last drop of profit from the old recordings! >:(

Actually by the time I bought this PhonoSuecia CD with Rosenberg 3+6  ( 15 years ago !) it was the only available recording of these works, so I was very happy to find it : I think it is a good idea to re-release material from the original tapes ( at a special price it is even better !), for instance if Melodiya would do so, a lot of treasures will resurface and become available to everyone.

Very good point Sicmu.  :) I was thinking that they ought to make new recordings of these works rather than reissue the old ones - but I suppose that just wouldn't happen. I was also a bit annoyed that I couldn't share my 6th with everyone! :(
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: semloh on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 21:56
Quote from: Dundonnell on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 19:30
The Rosenberg Symphonies Nos. 1 and 7 now........ :) :) :)

Sometimes I think that I shall wake up and all this will just have been a dream ;D

Thank You!!

I'f it's a dream I'm in it with you! Wonderful but scary! :D
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Arbuckle on Wednesday 12 October 2011, 22:03
Thanks for Nrs. 1 and 7, Britishcomposer, the Symphony No. 2 was released on Swedish Society Discofil, SCD 1026, along with Marionettes and the Louisville Concerto, various performers.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: lechner1110 on Thursday 13 October 2011, 09:17
 
  Rosenberg's Louisville Concerto,  I recorded in this week from Swedish radio.
  I will upload it nearly.

  A.S 
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Sicmu on Friday 14 October 2011, 14:59
I posted Rosenberg' second symphony two days ago but I still can't see it in the download section with the others : is it because it was not approved or it just didn't go through ?
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 14 October 2011, 15:07
it may be being considered- but consider also that the performance you posted (depends on which it is of course) may have been too recently on CD, as I think mentioned here, for it to be approved?. I don't know...
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Friday 14 October 2011, 18:37
If it wasn't approved, you'd have had an email from either Alan or I, so I guess that for some reason it just failed to post.  Try again (but remember to give the source of the recording).
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Sicmu on Saturday 15 October 2011, 15:37
So I posted it again and it wasn't approved because I didn't provide infos regarding the date the CD was discontinued.

As I don't want' to spend more time on this matter, I leave this task to somebody else ( if at least someone is interested in Rosenberg's second Symphony of course).
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 15 October 2011, 15:56
If anybody can do this then I can at least consider it, although as a general rule recordings which have been available on CD are not approved, even if they have been discontinued.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: violinconcerto on Saturday 15 October 2011, 16:02
Hello fellow members,

I am again updating my website with some additional information. I started - for no special reason - with all works by Swedish composers. So if you like, please check for a few Swedish violin works to see if that is useful and tell me about it, if you like. I added publisher, orchestration, world premiere and movement titles (as well as further comments, if there are any: prices, missing recordings, arrangements, whatever is of interest).

To give a starting point, here the link to the entry of the first violin concerto by Hilding Rosenberg:
Rosenberg: Violin concerto No.1 (http://www.violinconcerto.de/database.html?sobi2Task=sobi2Details&catid=2055&sobi2Id=14088)

Of course if you have information about missing data, please let me know!

Best,
Tobias
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: violinconcerto on Tuesday 18 October 2011, 08:51
Hello!

I am looking for some help or further information on my way to find the folowing recording:

Björn Hallman: Concerto for 2 violins and string orchestra.
I found the information that the work was commercially (?) releases by the Ottogram record label in 1991. I don't know if it was released on CD or cassette, but its called "Orchestraland" and the performers are Christer Thorvaldsson, Per Enoksson and Opalkvartetten.
I found an address and phone number for Ottogram and gave them a call, just to find out that the number is not working. It looks like the label isn't into business anymore. Of course I checked the normal sources for old recordings, but did not find an entry.
Any hints how to proceed?

Best,
Tobias
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 01 November 2011, 08:07
About Rosenberg 8 - there is a recording of this from the November 3 1981 premiere (as opposed to the LP) that was broadcast November 22 1981 on P2 (Malmo Symphony/Westerberg).
Re Hallman: from http://smdb.kb.se/catalog/search?q=hallman+bj%C3%B6rn&x=24&y=18 (http://smdb.kb.se/catalog/search?q=hallman+bj%C3%B6rn&x=24&y=18) the Orchestraland release is described as a compact cassette (which doesn't bear on whether or not it's still available though . This does give a list of the performers and producers though... and also by searching for Hallman you can see if there are other recordings of the work made for P2.)
Eric
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: semloh on Wednesday 02 November 2011, 06:39
A.S. - sincere thanks for the HÅKANSON - Variatoner over Lomjansguten - a fine piece of music, by a composer totally new to me. :) :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: semloh on Wednesday 02 November 2011, 06:56
Quote from: violinconcerto on Tuesday 18 October 2011, 08:51
Hello!

I am looking for some help or further information on my way to find the folowing recording:

Björn Hallman: Concerto for 2 violins and string orchestra.
"
I wonder if anyone can tell me if this would be the same Hallman who composed "Snowhite",  which I have on r2r tape, broadcast on BBC Radio 3 in the 80s, performed by "Marquis/BBC ScottishSO/Handford". I've tried in vain to identify it further! :-[
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 02 November 2011, 13:27
A Google/Worldcat search reveals "Sagan om Snövit = Snow-White : for narrator and orchestra, 1981" by Hallman, who is a composer of film and concert music- approx.30 minutes, translated by Alan Blair, held at the National Library of Sweden.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Wednesday 02 November 2011, 14:26
Thanks from me for the Håkanson Variations, too!  :D

Must have missed this. I've been interested in Håkanson for a while. SR2 has broadcast a Piano Sonata, String Quartet and some small stuff. His choral works are still sung and quite popular but his instrumental music has fallen into neglect. Of course, he was extremely conventional but his music is sincere and fresh. Moreover, his craftsmanship is unquestioned.
He and Rangström were good friends until Rangström decided that he couldn't live without Håkanson's wife...
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Wednesday 02 November 2011, 19:14
Eric, the 1988 Segerstam performance of Pettersson 4 has been rebroadcast by SR2 Thursday 20 October. It is still online:
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/gruppsida.aspx?programid=4112&grupp=15996 (http://sverigesradio.se/sida/gruppsida.aspx?programid=4112&grupp=15996)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: semloh on Wednesday 02 November 2011, 20:09
Quote from: eschiss1 on Wednesday 02 November 2011, 13:27
A Google/Worldcat search reveals "Sagan om Snövit = Snow-White : for narrator and orchestra, 1981" by Hallman, who is a composer of film and concert music- approx.30 minutes, translated by Alan Blair, held at the National Library of Sweden.

Thank you, Eric!  ;) ;)   I will upload it as soon as I can get to digitize it!

Yes. the same Hallman. Why on earth didn't I search for "Snövit"? ::)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 02 November 2011, 20:42
semloh- happy I could help, yes!
BC - I missed that entirely. Thank you. Unfortunately unless I figure out how to record that by November 18 (Nov.20 falls on a Sunday so needs to be caught by the Friday before I think...) - well, will try and see if I can using what I have and can acquire (but if someone else does, please upload - will delete my post as irrelevant in that case.  Will also of course happily listen to it in the meantime as I don't think I nec. have my own tape copy here from which the incomplete digital copy, which needed at the time to fit on a CD with the digital copy of a tape I had of Provotarov's Golubev 7, - etc. ... )
Eric
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Wednesday 02 November 2011, 21:01
Eric, I am just uploading AP 4! :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 02 November 2011, 21:17
thanks!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 03 November 2011, 00:28
Ok, BC's post having gone through (though the orchestra's name is different now - odd- but again it may have been different on my copy too) - will remove my post here and privatize that file there.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 05 November 2011, 14:13
Thanks B.C. for the Lindblad Piano Trio. Lovely!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 05 November 2011, 14:23
Thanks for the Lindblad trio! (Alfred Einstein wrote, I think, about keys not being interchangeable to the Classical and Romantic imagination the way they are to the modern, and why- anyhow, will listen very soon and this and the Bronsart do I think join some other G minor trios of note...)
According to IMSLP (difficult-to-read, alas, parts...) the movements are
#Allegro
#Scherzo - Allegro molto
#Andante con moto
#Allegro assai
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Saturday 05 November 2011, 14:46
Eric, do you know if any of his string quartets has been recorded apart from Nos 3 and 6? I am not sure where to search for this. ;)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 05 November 2011, 14:56
Hrm. Wasn't aware nos. 3 and 6 had been recorded commercially. "Stråkkvartett" is Swedish for string quartet if that helps one search at all (I hope I have that right... :( ) To find out which works have been studio-recorded, search http://smdb.kb.se (http://smdb.kb.se) to search Swedish radio and TV (use different options to restrict by time, by radio or TV, etc. - with a browser like Google chrome you can translate the page to English and more or less figure out what's going on. Some of the performances you'll turn up will be LP or CD recordings, some will be in-house recordings, that takes further research. That's where I found the Lindblad duo and trio and several other things I requested.)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: jerfilm on Saturday 05 November 2011, 15:13
Adding my thanks, BC, for the Lindblad Trio.   I was starting to wonder when some 19th century music was going to start showing up again in the download section......heehee.......

Having said that, I do want to say that one of the wonderful things about this great forum is that for those of us not "in to" much 20th century music, we can download and sample composers that we might normally dismiss out of hand.  And from time to time, find pieces that appeal to us.  So, thanks, too, to everyone for that.....

Jerry
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Saturday 05 November 2011, 15:17
I recorded the two Lindblad Quartets many years ago from Euroclassic Notturno. I couldn't find out if they actually were released commercially. I have no performers for No 3 but according to P2 No 6 was recorded in 1977 by the Helsingborg Quartet.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Saturday 05 November 2011, 15:23
And many thanks for the link! (Have long been trying to find a comm. rec. of the Piano Quintet by Sigurd von Koch and it was released by Phono Suecia! :D)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 05 November 2011, 15:36
I think those were both Swedish Radio recordings but - hrm. Searching for Lindblad and stråkkvartett ...
his 4th in B minor was broadcast in 1987... (names of performers given, can find again)
the Yggrasil-Quartet performed his 3rd quartet in a performance broadcast in 1997 (recorded? 1997-03-26 - might be the recording you have - about 40 minutes long, 22:30-23:10 is the slot it fit in, anyway) -

an Orebro-quartet recording of his 6th quartet was broadcast in 1997 -
a Helsingborgs-String Quartet recording of no.6 "Inspelat" (recorded in) 1977 (first broadcast in 1982, I think) was broadcast (maybe a dozen times?) too. Fairly sure it's a radio recording and not a commercial one, however. (A websearch "adolf lindblad "Helsingborgs stråkkvartett" 1977" outside of the database shows the information "Inspelat i K7 Malmö 14/11 1977.", confirming this I think... well- not entirely confirming it, since many a commercial recording- I think of cpo's Pettersson 2/symphonic movement- is recorded in conjunction with radio stations :) . indeed BBC has broadcast some concerts that have later turned up on cpo, Chandos or Hyperion discs, as have other stations... it does seem to me a good arrangement. Anyway. Must dash, twice-dottily as usual. Sorry.)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Saturday 05 November 2011, 15:45
Ah, thank you! :D
Yes, I seem to remember about the Yggrdasils being mentioned in connection with the 3rd Q. My recording takes about 36 min.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 05 November 2011, 23:39
BC - re Hylén quartet - thank you very much!
The parts are indeed at http://imslp.org/wiki/String_Quartet_(Hyl%C3%A9n,_Oscar) (http://imslp.org/wiki/String_Quartet_(Hyl%C3%A9n,_Oscar)) (sorry about the diacritics)- this is from the edition published by Hirsch of Stockholm (not sure if it's the first edition. Also available at Sibley.)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 09 November 2011, 05:18
Re Geijer quartet - thanks again!! ca.1979 recording I think , 1847 quartet...
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 10 November 2011, 02:20
Moving discussion of Heintze's concerto here as we seem to have determined that Gustaf (Hjalmar - middle name?) Heintze (1879-1946) was probably Swedish- two sources list his concerto for two pianos as being in A minor, not E minor- will listen and check though... (according to one of them, Hinson, he wrote at least the following- two piano concertos, in F minor and E minor, a concertstück in F-sharp minor, and the 2-piano concerto in A minor. Hinson estimates the 2-piano concerto at 25 minutes. )

Swedish Radio has also broadcast by him:
#a fantasy for cello and orchestra (Maria Mircheva. Helsingborgs symfoniorkester. Dirigent: Claude Génetay, in 1979)
#A piano trio in B minor (opus 17) ( Lucia Negro, piano, Nils-Erik Sparf, violin, och Lars Frykholm, violoncell.) (broadcast 1981)
#Piano Trio op.16? (Smetana trio)
#A piano suite
#An organ fantasia (8'50". 1932. Recorded 1984.)
#Briefer works

Ah. http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustaf_Hjalmar_Heintze (http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustaf_Hjalmar_Heintze)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 10 November 2011, 04:30
From http://www.operas.com.ar/Music-Encyclopedia/36507/Heintze,-Gustaf-(Hjalmar).htm (http://www.operas.com.ar/Music-Encyclopedia/36507/Heintze,-Gustaf-(Hjalmar).htm) on Heintze- also three piano quintets, 2 violin concertos, operas?, other works. Neat...
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: J.Z. Herrenberg on Saturday 19 November 2011, 22:59
Many thanks to member A.S. for his upload of Rangström's First Symphony - Segerstam is on fire, which is just the right thing for this explosive work!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Sunday 20 November 2011, 01:35
I am adding a radio broadcast from 1979 of Lars-Erik Larsson's Variations for Orchestra(1962)-a rather atypical Larsson composition ;D
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 02 December 2011, 00:27
Have heard a couple of late Larsson works- will have a listen- thanks!
The 3rd Norman symphony goes like so, movement-a-wise:

1.Allegro appassionato ma non troppo presto

2.Andante cantabile

3.Allegretto molto comodo (commodo?)

4.Allegro molto
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 03 December 2011, 15:39
Very many thanks, Mathias, for the Söderman Piano Quartet - what an attractive piece.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Saturday 03 December 2011, 16:04
Yes, Söderman is always rewarding!  :D
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 03 December 2011, 19:01
re Fernstrom, forgot to add that it's his opus 95. Will try to find out the track titles :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Wednesday 07 December 2011, 04:17
If you can endure the first two minutes of horrible distortion the performance of the Bo Linde Violin Concerto I have uploaded from Swedish Radio in July 1977 is a particularly fine rendering of the work.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Friday 09 December 2011, 20:45
Many thanks to britishcomposer for the uploads of two symphonies by Erland von Koch :) :)

Marvellous ;D
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Holger on Friday 09 December 2011, 21:11
I absolutely agree, thanks very much for these two Erland von Koch symphonies indeed! I already listened to the Sixth and found it highly enjoyable, I like von Koch's pulsating rhythms a lot.

Tomorrow, I will upload the two symphonies I promised. That's an easy task because I already edited them quite some time ago. I also have some more von Koch rarities, including two piano concertos and two string quartets, which I shall consider uploading as well, but this will need some more time.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Friday 09 December 2011, 21:21
That will be fantastic too, Holger :)

If I were to mention "Litanies", the Dance Variations and "Melos" by a certain Welsh composer-which I am totally sure you have not in fact forgotten-you will, rightly, want to throw things at me ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Holger on Friday 09 December 2011, 21:25
It may be a bit off-topic, but: no, I certainly do not have forgotten the remaining Mathias pieces. It's just an issue of time. The two von Koch symphonies are easy uploads as I said since they do not need any further work - which is different in case of the Mathias. In the last days, I was busy with transferring some music by Ernst Hermann Meyer, but now I should have enough free time to prepare the Mathias items for upload.

So, do look forward what will come up within the next days! ;D
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Friday 09 December 2011, 21:55
Quote from: Holger on Friday 09 December 2011, 21:25
It may be a bit off-topic, but: no, I certainly do not have forgotten the remaining Mathias pieces. It's just an issue of time. The two von Koch symphonies are easy uploads as I said since they do not need any further work - which is different in case of the Mathias. In the last days, I was busy with transferring some music by Ernst Hermann Meyer, but now I should have enough free time to prepare the Mathias items for upload.

So, do look forward what will come up within the next days! ;D

It IS off-topic.....and I do apologise sincerely :) :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: patmos.beje on Friday 09 December 2011, 23:09

Does anyone have Gosta Nystroem's Violin Concerto to upload?
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: BFerrell on Friday 09 December 2011, 23:11
and Nystroem's Concerto Ricercante for Piano & Orchestra?
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: shamokin88 on Friday 09 December 2011, 23:22
I have both Nystroems. Shamokin88.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Saturday 10 December 2011, 00:14
Quote from: patmos.beje on Friday 09 December 2011, 23:09

Does anyone have Gosta Nystroem's Violin Concerto to upload?

The Gosta Nystroem Violin Concerto in the premiere performance in 1957 by Tibor Varga with the Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra under Sixten Eckerberg can be downloaded from a number of sites on the net.

I have a copy but I am dubious about uploading it on this site because it appeared on a Philharmonia cd (No.23 in the Tibor Varga Collection) which may or may not still be available.

If I was to be given the go ahead I could certainly rip a a copy and upload it but that will depend on Administrator permission.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 10 December 2011, 00:28
Last I saw a post from Mark on this subject availability wasn't the issue, the existence at some point of a commercial CD (not library- or privately-ripped) was. But I'm not an admin...
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: BFerrell on Saturday 10 December 2011, 01:21
Shamokin88, I'm starting to love you.  :P
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 10 December 2011, 07:15
Sorry Colin, as Eric says, if a recording has been available on CD then it can't be posted here.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Saturday 10 December 2011, 12:08
Quote from: Tapiola on Friday 09 December 2011, 23:11
and Nystroem's Concerto Ricercante for Piano & Orchestra?

A recording of the world premiere performance will be broadacst today by Swedish Radio:

LÖRDAG 10 DECEMBER
18:04: Gösta Nystroem
Concerto ricercante (1959). Radioorkestern. Dirigent: Sten Frykberg. Uruppförandet, 1960, Musikaliska akademins stora sal, Stockholm. 
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2482&artikel=4825994 (http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2482&artikel=4825994)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: shamokin88 on Saturday 10 December 2011, 17:59
About the Nystroem Violin Concerto: I have a copy that I could upload but I am hesitant because I have no idea who the performers are. It could be the Tibor Varga premiere that ended up on CD. In any event I obtained it during the spring of 1975 from the composer's daughter. Has anyone guidance to offer? 
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Saturday 10 December 2011, 18:40
Thanks to Holger for two more symphonies by Erland von Koch :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 11 December 2011, 07:15
Thanks also to Holger. According to SMDB, Lapponica was recorded by Westerberg (same recording?) in 1977 (and broadcast in 1981 and other times.) Symphony 4 Seria has received at least 2 broadcast recordings- one conducted by Westerberg, one by Goran Nilson; the Westerberg was conducted by 1982.)

The movements of symphony 3 op.38 are 1.Allegro moderato -- 2. Adagio espressivo -- 3. Allegro agitato. Those of symphony 4 op51 are 1. Andante -- 2. Allegretto -- 3. Allegro moderato.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Tuesday 13 December 2011, 14:01
You don't know the name of the pianist in the Nystroem Concerto Ricercante do you, Atsushi?
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Tuesday 13 December 2011, 17:54
Quote from: Dundonnell on Tuesday 13 December 2011, 14:01
You don't know the name of the pianist in the Nystroem Concerto Ricercante do you, Atsushi?

It's the Estonian pianist Käbi Laretei (b. 1922)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: BFerrell on Tuesday 13 December 2011, 18:41
I have the old Philips LP and the orchestra on that is the Stockholm Philharmonic.  On the Violin Concerto I found this....Tibor Varga Collection - No. 23, Nielsen & Nyström (1993) - UNRELEASED. Does that mean it can be downloaded?
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Greg K on Tuesday 13 December 2011, 20:30
Quote from: Tapiola on Tuesday 13 December 2011, 18:41
I have the old Philips LP and the orchestra on that is the Stockholm Philharmonic.  On the Violin Concerto I found this....Tibor Varga Collection - No. 23, Nielsen & Nyström (1993) - UNRELEASED. Does that mean it can be downloaded?

I own the original CD ("Tibor Varga Collection - No.23") - purchased from JPC probably 15 years ago.  It's been commercially released. 
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Tuesday 13 December 2011, 20:56
Quote from: britishcomposer on Tuesday 13 December 2011, 17:54
Quote from: Dundonnell on Tuesday 13 December 2011, 14:01
You don't know the name of the pianist in the Nystroem Concerto Ricercante do you, Atsushi?

It's the Estonian pianist Käbi Laretei (b. 1922)

Thanks for that info' :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: lechner1110 on Tuesday 13 December 2011, 22:12
Quote from: britishcomposer on Tuesday 13 December 2011, 17:54
Quote from: Dundonnell on Tuesday 13 December 2011, 14:01
You don't know the name of the pianist in the Nystroem Concerto Ricercante do you, Atsushi?

It's the Estonian pianist Käbi Laretei (b. 1922)

  Thanks britishcomposer  :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: JollyRoger on Monday 02 January 2012, 10:11
I am so grateful to have heard the 4 symphonies of Erland Von Koch posted here. This composer was unknown to me and these symphonies have greatly endeared me to his wonderful music.  The 3rd symphony had strong echoes of Hindemith, did this composer have an association with him? Needless to say, I would greatly appreciate hearing much more of Koch's orchestral music.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: semloh on Friday 06 January 2012, 21:44
Atsushi - thank you for the Atterberg Cello Concerto - new to me and a most enjoyable work. Atterberg never disappoints. Also, special thanks for Rosenberg's 'America'. This is one I've had on my 'wants' list for many years, having taped it on R2R, courtesy of the BBC, back in the 70s. It really is as interesting and enjoyable as I remember!  :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: lechner1110 on Saturday 07 January 2012, 00:06

  semloh - Yes, Both works are very interesting :D  Especially,  Rosenberg's 'America' is new work to me , and very enjoyable suite. Anyway I'm glad to hear it filled a gap of your want list :D
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Greg K on Friday 13 January 2012, 18:06
I must say what a thouroughly ingratiating work Peterson-Berger's 2nd Violin Sonata is, with a truly gorgeous slow movement.  Given that PB's Violin Concerto is probably my favorite Swedish VC (in a strong field) I had a hunch his Sonatas might have the same lyrical profusion, - and this one does.  Thanks Atsushi.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: lechner1110 on Saturday 14 January 2012, 07:39

  Greg K,  Yes , I like Peterson-Berger's music very much!  His musics are always lyrical and full of Nordic mood.
  My best of his music is Sym#2. And also I like his violin concero very much ;D  Thanks!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Wednesday 18 January 2012, 13:35
Many thanks to Sicmu for the Kallstenius 5th Symphony :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Wednesday 18 January 2012, 18:48
*looks at the subtitle of the Kallstenius 5th symphony*  - "Kallstenius Symphony No.5, Op.52 ("Sinfonia Ordinaria ma su temi 12-tonici", 1960)" - I like that, that flows... ;)
thanks again!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Saturday 21 January 2012, 14:11
I know that naxos is going to release Eggert's symphonies in the near future but in the meantime I have uploaded an earlier recording of No. 3 from LP as broadcast by Swedish Radio P2. Enjoy it!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: JimL on Saturday 21 January 2012, 15:31
Is that the one with the trombones?
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Saturday 21 January 2012, 15:59
I think so!  ;)  :D

http://musikforskning.se/stmonline/vol_4/kallai/index.php?menu=3 (http://musikforskning.se/stmonline/vol_4/kallai/index.php?menu=3)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: JimL on Saturday 21 January 2012, 17:00
Quote from: britishcomposer on Saturday 21 January 2012, 15:59
I think so!  ;)  :D

http://musikforskning.se/stmonline/vol_4/kallai/index.php?menu=3 (http://musikforskning.se/stmonline/vol_4/kallai/index.php?menu=3)
I don't know if you are aware of this, but Avishai is a member of this Forum.  Haven't heard from him for awhile.  I'm surprised he hasn't responded to your download.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: TerraEpon on Saturday 21 January 2012, 20:51
Quote from: JimL on Saturday 21 January 2012, 15:31
Is that the one with the trombones?

Haha, I was about to type that sentence myself :D
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: JimL on Saturday 21 January 2012, 21:12
Come to think of it we haven't heard from good ol' Hofrat in a while.  Think I might email him.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Sicmu on Thursday 26 January 2012, 14:53
Thanks a lot for the Johanson latvian, this early symphony is already atonal ( like the 10th), I'm not very fond of atonality but I like the way he makes use of it : it's robust, dense and highly polyphonic. 
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: BFerrell on Monday 30 January 2012, 23:45
Can somebody please switch this from rar to mp3.  rar is impossible!!  Thank you.

HILDING ROSENBERG (1892-1985)


Symphony No. 8 "Sinfonia Serena"
(revised from original Symphony No. 8 "In Candidum" for Chorus and Orchestra) (1974/1980)
Stig Westerberg/Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra
+ Cello Concerto No. 2
LP CAPRICE CAP 1283 (1985)

320 kbps MP3 + scan :

http://www.mediafire.com/?e408was2wdk2lh2


Title: Re: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Tuesday 31 January 2012, 14:32
Quote from: Tapiola on Monday 30 January 2012, 23:45
Can somebody please switch this from rar to mp3.  rar is impossible!!  Thank you.

HILDING ROSENBERG (1892-1985)


Symphony No. 8 "Sinfonia Serena"
(revised from original Symphony No. 8 "In Candidum" for Chorus and Orchestra) (1974/1980)
Stig Westerberg/Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra
+ Cello Concerto No. 2
LP CAPRICE CAP 1283 (1985)

320 kbps MP3 + scan :

http://www.mediafire.com/?e408was2wdk2lh2

I installed a free programme called 7-Zip File Manager. If you download a .rar file all that is required is to open 7-Zip, locate and highlight the .rar file wherever you have stored it, and then clock "Extract". 7-Zip then extracts the file inside and hey presto ;D
Title: Re: Re: Swedish music
Post by: JimL on Tuesday 31 January 2012, 15:32
RAR files aren't impossible.  I had the Catoire Symphony downloaded in the RAR format and couldn't open it for quite a while.  I finally got the trial version of WinZip and was able to extract it.  Maybe I'll purchase WinZip when the evaluation period is over.  I used to have it on my old computer but I guess when they downloaded its guts into my new computer the credits didn't transfer. >:(
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: TerraEpon on Tuesday 31 January 2012, 18:12
I agree with going with 7z. It's free, so there's no trial nonsense (or potentially pirary) involved, and it has its own comprsssion format that in certain circumstances is a lot better (plus I like the icon better ^_^)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: cjvinthechair on Tuesday 31 January 2012, 19:06
My Winrar 40 day free trial doesn't seem to realise it expired a while ago & is still happily unlocking files from the marvellous downloads section.
Did that when I had it on an older computer too, so should work for all.             Clive.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: BFerrell on Tuesday 31 January 2012, 19:53
Thank you all! My transfer of the Rosenberg came from an old LP and sounds like it! I will ask my "bride" to help me with it. 
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: BFerrell on Wednesday 01 February 2012, 00:55
Worked !!  Sounds great. Thank you all.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Wednesday 01 February 2012, 01:54
Quote from: Tapiola on Wednesday 01 February 2012, 00:55
Worked !!  Sounds great. Thank you all.

Great :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 04 February 2012, 17:59
Many thanks again, BC, for the Amanda Röntgen-Maier uploads and what enjoyable pieces they proved to be, especially the Piano Quartet, her last work. The movement titles and (I think) the performers are set out below:

Amanda RÖNTGEN-MAIER (1853-94)

Piano Quartet in E minor (1891)
I. Allegro
II. Andante
III. Presto con fuoco
IV. Finale: Largo espressivo – Allegro vivace
Imola Bartha, piano; Mátyás Bartha, violin
Gwenaëlle Geiser, viola & Lehel Donáth, cello
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Alan Howe on Saturday 04 February 2012, 19:16
Indeed, many thanks for the Piano Quartet by Röntgen-Maier. Wonderful to have it.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: jowcol on Monday 06 February 2012, 12:14

Symphonies 4,5 and Double Concerto by Erland von Koch:



(http://www.sequenza21.com/uploaded_images/390-731791.jpg)

I've posted these in the downloads section.  For those of you (like me) that didn't know much about him, I'll provide some added content, first from Wikipedia:

Born in Stockholm as the son of composer Sigurd von Koch (1879–1919), Erland von Koch studied at the Stockholm Conservatory from 1931 to 1935 and subsequently passed the advanced choirmaster and organist examinations. Between 1936 and 1938, he lived in Germany and France in order to pursue studies in composition with Paul Höffer, conducting with Clemens Krauss, and piano with Claudio Arrau. Later, he took private classes with Tor Mann in Sweden.[1]
Teaching at the Karl Wohlfarts Musikschule from 1939 to 1945, von Koch also spent the final two years of this period working as a sound expert and choirmaster for radio broadcasting. He composed much music for the Swedish film industry during a good forty years. From 1953 to 1975, he was lecturer in harmony at the Stockholm Conservatory,[2] where he was appointed a professor in 1968.[1]
von Koch became a member of the Royal Swedish Academy of Music in 1957. He has received numerous other honors and prizes at both national and international levels for his compositions. He has written six symphonies (of which the fifth, Lapponica, is dedicated to the Sami people),[3] twelve Scandinavian Dances, one opera (Pelle Svanslös), and five ballets, as well as music for wind orchestra.
Even in his nineties he composed/studied every day. His works can be described as uncomplicated and his motto was always to "keep the melody".[1]

At the website of the Swedish Society for Performing rights  there was supposed to be an interview.  The link is broken, but someone from the GMG forum posted it's contents below.   



His father was composer Sigurd von Koch (1879-1919), and as a boy Erland would lie beneath the grand piano and hear Wilhelm Stenhammar and Ture Rangström play, among others. Since that time he has met many of the big names in 20th century music, including Rachmaninov, Bartók, Stravinsky, Hindemith and Alfvén.


Studies abroad
Although he grew up in musically rich surroundings, music was never the obvious option for Erland von Koch. It was not until his teenage years that he began playing piano and soon became interested in jazz. Together with some friends he formed the first jazz band - 'Electric Band' - at Östra Real secondary school in Stockholm, and he led the 'Diddle Kiddies' and 'Optimistic Stompers', always in dark glasses in case a teacher happened by.


At the end of the 1920s he won two composition contests organised by the Edda upper secondary association. His interest in music grew, and he gradually began considering a future as a composer.


Studies at the Royal Swedish Academy of Music followed, resulting in a degree in music majoring as a cantor and organist. This was followed by composition, conducting and piano studies in Berlin. The plan was to study under Hindemith, who unfortunately fell into disfavour with the Nazis and was forced to hand Erland von Koch over to his friend and colleague, Paul Höffer. He chose Claudio Arrau as his piano teacher and for conducting he studied under Clemens Krauss.


I ask him what he considers his biggest success as a composer.

"I would say my 'Liten svit för kammarorkester' (Small Suite for Chamber Orchestra), op. 1, which I debuted with - both as composer and conductor - at the Academy in 1934."


The 1930s Generation and the Monday Group
When Erland von Koch returned to Sweden in the late 1930s he was voted into the Association of Swedish Composers, FST, and he made his definitive breakthrough with 'Piano Concerto No. 1' which premiered in 1938 with the Stockholm Concert Association and pianist Herman Hoppe.

Erland von Koch, Lars-Erik Larsson, Dag Wirén, Hilding Hallnäs and Gunnar de Frumerie all debuted in the 1930s after studying in France and Germany. They all had similar aesthetic values, and came to be known as 'Trettiotalisterna', literally 'the Generation of the 1930s'. Their music is relatively accessible and they were more influenced by Bartók, Hindemith and Honegger than by Schönberg and twelve-tone music.


The younger, radical generation which eventually made up the so-called 'Monday Group' came into opposition with the 'Trettiotalisterna', whom they considered far too traditionalistic. The Monday Group and its advocates had a strong influence on the Swedish music scene for a long time, partly because they held most of the important administrative positions. The 'Trettiotalisterna' felt left out in many respects, but the audiences appreciated their music.


Folk music and the Sami
During the 1940s, Erland von Koch became interested in Swedish folk music. Over the next decade this led to a series of works with some degree of folk musical influence, such as 'The Oxberg Variations' (1956), 'Lapland Metamorphoses' (1957) and 'Dance Rhapsody' (1957). As recently as 1990 he wrote 'Bilder från Lappland' (Images of Lapland), six choral songs based on Sami 'yoik' chants.


Personally, Erland von Koch thinks that he has been too readily and arbitrarily associated with folk music. After all, folklore is one of many elements in his style, and it is now almost fifty years since he moved on to concentrate on other styles.

This is how he describes his journey between the styles: "A tendency towards neo-classicism during the 1930s, a 'romantic' period around the mid-40s, orientation towards a more modern expression in the 1960s, and since then greater freedom encompassing all the trends and isms."

Even so, his interest in folk music and Sami chants strengthened his involvement in the Sami cause and environmental issues, which was expressed most powerfully in his symphony No. 5, 'Lapponica'. It was dedicated to the Sami people and is a kind of protest music against the way this indigenous people has been treated.

The melody is key
Erland von Koch's portfolio encompasses a large number of works in varying styles and forms. It includes 6 symphonies, 15 solo concerts, 12 'Scandinavian dances', the 'Impulsi' and 'Oxberg' trilogies for orchestra, the children's opera 'Pelle Svanlös' (Pelle - the Cat with the Very Short Tail), 5 ballets, an extensive repertoire of songs and even a few hymns.


"That's right, there's plenty on my conscience," he jokes.


He has also composed several solo works, some of the better known being those entitled '18 Monologues' - a series of skilfully executed studies of the orchestral instruments' capacity and expressive scope.

In addition - often simply to make a living, as he puts it - he has written the music for around 30 films, including half a dozen by Ingmar Bergman.

Animated rhythmic aspects - perhaps influenced by his time as a jazz pianist and by Bartók - are characteristic of Erland von Koch's music, as is the prominent role he assigns the melody. "The way I see it, the melody is the key element, the very life and soul of the music, and I have always endeavoured to cultivate its many expressive qualities," he explains.

Distinctions
Alongside his composing, Erland von Koch also worked as a harmony teacher at the Royal College of Music in Stockholm between 1953 and 1975. During the 1940s he was employed at Radiotjänst as conductor and harmony expert, and was also chairman of the Fylkingen New Music & Intermediate Art Society. He became a member of the Royal Swedish Academy of Music in 1957 and a professor in 1968.


Over the years he has been awarded a large number of prizes and distinctions: the Christ Johnson Prize in 1958, Vasaorden (RVO) in 1967, Litteris et artibus in 1979, the Atterberg prize in 1979 and the Alfvén prize in 1981. He was awarded the Royal Swedish Academy of Music medal for musical promotion in 2000.


Erland von Koch likes to quote Sibelius: "Don't think that the years make it any easier to compose music - it just gets harder and harder." At the same time, though, he says he is an incurable optimist:

"Above all I think that music can help us see - and even trust - the powers of good in life."
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Monday 06 February 2012, 13:48
Thanks for the von Koch Double Concerto :)

I should point out however that the Symphonies Nos. 4 and 5 in the same recordings were uploaded here by Holger on 10th December.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: jowcol on Monday 06 February 2012, 14:52
Quote from: Dundonnell on Monday 06 February 2012, 13:48
Thanks for the von Koch Double Concerto :)

I should point out however that the Symphonies Nos. 4 and 5 in the same recordings were uploaded here by Holger on 10th December.

Thanks for letting me know.   I'll search and compare before uploading in the future. 

I'm delighted that I can help share some material you all don't have.  This site is amazing!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: jowcol on Friday 10 February 2012, 14:13

I've posted Maurice Karkoff (1927-) Symphonies 1 and 3


(http://www.gehrmans.se/MediaBinaryLoader.axd?MediaArchive_VersionID=cef262c7-459c-4b5a-a4cc-d3ce61d13186&FileName=Karkoff+crop+red+2010%5bMaxbredd+460%5d.JPEG)


Text below from: http://www.gehrmans.se/en/composers/karkoff_maurice (http://www.gehrmans.se/en/composers/karkoff_maurice)

Karkoff has given a voice to his impassioned, very engaged artist's nature through an impressive array of works. His great capacity for form and constructions has also helped, rather than hindered, his natural sensitivity for the impulsive and spontaneously powerful.
Born in Stockholm on March 17, 1927. Studies in music theory for Karl-Birger Blomdahl from 1944-46. During this period (1945-46), he also studied piano at the Royal College of Music in Stockholm, followed by a degree in piano pedagogy in 1951. From 1948-53 he studied composition (Lars-Erik Larsson), counterpoint, and conducting. He complemented his studies in composition for Erland von Koch, Vagn Holmboe, André Jolivet, Wladimir Vogel, and Jörgen Jersild (instrumentation). He studied piano with Gottfrid Boon (1946-49) and Stina Sundell (1949-51). He was music critic at Stockholmstidningen from 1962-66. From 1965-96, he taught theory and composition at Stockholm's Communal Music Institute. Karkoff has been awarded several prizes and awards: the Swedish Radio Orchestra Prize in 1962; the Christ Johnson Prize in 1964; the Stockholm City Prize of Honor in 1976; the Atterberg Prize in1983; Litt. et art. in 1993; the Alfvén Prize in 1999 and the Christ Johnson Grand Prize in 2006. He was a board member of the Royal Academy of Music in 1977.

Maurice Karkoff has himself often spoken of color and expressiveness as the strongest facets of his art, and these characteristics have had ample room to bloom in his many orchestral works and large vocal production. Among his chamber works are several string quartets and many pieces with both a lyrical character and great feel for musicianship.

Karkoff is one of the strongest and most versatile symphonic composers in Swedish music. The critic Carl-Gunnar Åhlén once wrote that his symphonies, taken together, form a canon in the genre that is comparable to that of Allan Pettersson. His symphonies vary in character from pointed to pregnant drama, a melodic language where the introverted goes hand in hand with a strong feeling for the lovely and beautiful; this is something that also characterizes the rest of his orchestral music, such as the works Sette pezzi and Vision. The symphonies often have an inner strength born of a feel for musicianship, such as in No. 11, Sinfonia della vita. They are sometimes imbued with great seriousness, such as Symfoniska Reflexioner (Symphonic Reflections), and the symphonies Nos. 1, 3, 4, 6, 8, and 9 (also called the Dolorous Symphony, composed for string orchestra). His musicality is complemented by his lyricism; he is a master of vocal writing, the tonal language of which sets up dialogues with poets such as Nelly Sachs, Paul Celan, Gunnar Ekelöf, and Tomas Tranströmer.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: BFerrell on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 05:14
The download of Wiklund's Symphony has some errors. Band 1 is actually "Symphonic Prologue". Bands 2 & 3 are just the first two movements of the Symphony. Is it possible to get a download of the complete symphony?
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 14:19
Atsushi posted the links for the Wiklund back in September, I believe.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: BFerrell on Tuesday 14 February 2012, 21:22
My error. I downloaded it wrong! I'm an idiot.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: jowcol on Thursday 16 February 2012, 12:03
I've posted Piano Concertos 1 and 2, and Symphony 1 by composer Bo Linde.   Based on his unfortunate death, there seems to be some debate on the discussion boards if he was a victim of "modernist orthodoxy" or not.  I've found a few excerpts below that say more about these works and hopefully a little about the man himself.

(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/557692.jpg)

From Naxos (liner notes from Violin and Cello concerti)


"I write in very beautiful triads," Bo Linde explained during an interview for the Swedish Broadcasting Corporation after he had been accepted as a student in Lars Erik Larsson's composition class at the Academy of Music in Stockholm at the tender age of fifteen. He was not only a precocious talent but, from an early age, he had a clear idea of what he wanted to do in music. For example he submitted his first piano concerto as part of his application for admission to the Academy. Although he was a technically very gifted pianist he rapidly abandoned the idea of a solo career. That would merely interfere with his work as a composer. Most of all he wanted to write organ music and music for the theatre. In point of fact he was only to write a couple of small-scale organ pieces and a children's opera in these genres. Instead, he devoted his powers to writing orchestral music, chamber music and, not least, songs. Just like Benjamin Britten, whom he greatly admired, Bo Linde had an unfailing sense of how poetry and music could be united. The piano accompaniments in the songs are often very lively and exciting.

From AudAud.com

Bo Linde (1933-1970) died at the tragically early age of just 37. Born in Gävle, he became a composition student of Lars-Erik Larsson in 1948 at Stockholm's Academy of Music. His first piano concerto was one of the pieces he provided with his application to the Academy; he was also a very fine pianist, but rejected a career as a concert artist in favour of composition.

His early Symphony No.1, (Sinfonia Fantasia Op.1) written in 1951 and completed just before the composer's 19th birthday. Linde admired the works of Benjamin Britten enormously, both those for orchestra, and those where the result was a mix of music and poetry. Linde's output is thoroughly tonal, and his early works already show complete mastery of orchestration, and a sound grasp of architecture and structure. This symphony does not follow the traditional four-movement structure, hence his title "Fantasia", and the contrasts between episodes of great power and other more thoughtful are striking. There is something of the sea in this work, reminding this listener of the Peter Grimes Interludes. The Gävle Symphony Orchestra's tympanist is given plenty to do.


Music Web International:

Fifty years ago being a student of Lars-Erik Larsson and writing accessible, melodic, romantic music were not the best credentials for ready acceptance in Sweden's music establishment. At that time Karl-Birger Blomdahl and Bo Wallner set the tone and the aesthetics of the Darmstadt school lead the way. In this milieu Bo Linde's music was hardly performed at all by the national institutions. His hometown, Gävle, was the exception; there he was held in high esteem. When he passed away at the age of 37 there was still not a single note of his to be heard on record, although an EP with some of his songs, accompanied by the composer himself, was on its way and was released only months later.

Read more: http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2006/Apr06/linde_concerti_naxos8557855.htm#ixzz1mTJCVnGM

From Fanfare:
It's a cliche, but in this case, also true: the suicide of Bo Linde (1933-1970) at the age of37 shocked the world of Swedish classical music. He was considered the most promising composer of his generation by many of his compatriots, and the most likely to make a mark on the international front.


Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Tartini on Thursday 16 February 2012, 19:55
As far as I know, did he not commit suicide. It was a hernia in the neck that suddenly broke.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: JimL on Thursday 16 February 2012, 20:52
You mean an aneurysm? ??? Hernias are seldom fatal, no matter where they are.  A carotid aneurysm, on the other hand, almost certainly would be.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: jowcol on Thursday 16 February 2012, 20:57
Quote from: JimL on Thursday 16 February 2012, 20:52
You mean an aneurysm? ??? Hernias are seldom fatal, no matter where they are.  A carotid aneurysm, on the other hand, almost certainly would be.

In either case, it's tragic for someone that young.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Tartini on Thursday 16 February 2012, 22:44
Must be aneurysm then. Have searched in all my swedish literature about the cause of his death. But have not found anything more specified than that he died of disease. On a swedish blog someone wrote about this aneurysm. Yes. Anyway he was one of the founder, here in Stockholm, to a chamber music society, including Jan Carlstedt, called "Samtida musik" (contemporary music) The year was 1960
and the group came to form front against the more Darmstadt oriented composers, who had a kind of power position. The group wrote music that was more rooted in neo-classicism and romanticism. A kind of moderate modernism. Where the lyrical and melodic are prominent. There is a beautiful violin sonata of Bo Linde that somehow characterizing this style. Poetic and intense. Feelings for real.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: JollyRoger on Friday 17 February 2012, 04:53
Quote from: cjvinthechair on Tuesday 31 January 2012, 19:06
My Winrar 40 day free trial doesn't seem to realise it expired a while ago & is still happily unlocking files from the marvellous downloads section.
Did that when I had it on an older computer too, so should work for all.             Clive.

7zip is far superior and it is free..you can get it a cnet.
Title: Re: Re: Swedish music
Post by: JollyRoger on Friday 17 February 2012, 04:56
Quote from: Dundonnell on Tuesday 31 January 2012, 14:32
Quote from: Tapiola on Monday 30 January 2012, 23:45
Can somebody please switch this from rar to mp3.  rar is impossible!!  Thank you.

HILDING ROSENBERG (1892-1985)


Symphony No. 8 "Sinfonia Serena"
(revised from original Symphony No. 8 "In Candidum" for Chorus and Orchestra) (1974/1980)
Stig Westerberg/Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra
+ Cello Concerto No. 2
LP CAPRICE CAP 1283 (1985)

320 kbps MP3 + scan :

http://www.mediafire.com/?e408was2wdk2lh2

I installed a free programme called 7-Zip File Manager. If you download a .rar file all that is required is to open 7-Zip, locate and highlight the .rar file wherever you have stored it, and then clock "Extract". 7-Zip then extracts the file inside and hey presto ;D

try 'extract here' and it will put it in the same folder..and you will not loose it.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 05 March 2012, 21:49
Belatedly, listened to Eggert's 2nd symphony and am listening to the 3rd. I remember seeing reviews of his music (a string quartet here- actually I think that was about it) awhile back and then Martin Anderson noted program notes to the recentish recording of Lindblad's symphonies in which the writer put in a word for Eggert as the best known to him of the as yet undiscovered composers from that general time and place. 
And now I know where the enthusiasm comes from. I wouldn't say this is the very best late Classical/early Romantic stuff (putting my very favorites from that (general) era- Joseph Haydn, Wolfgang Mozart, Beethoven, aside) I've heard but it's on a level with it (the Potter symphonies, to stick to the same general time, seemed comparable in quality, strength, creative profile- but again, still, some of the best things I think I've heard from here - or just maybe from that period that didn't have a well-known (to me I suppose - To me, Kraus is well-known by now :D ) name attached. Not that much else really.
Thanks!! Hope the new Naxos recordings give works like this much more exposure.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Wednesday 28 March 2012, 18:49
Many thanks, Atsushi, for a large collection of uploads today of music by Swedish composers but also German, French, Dutch and Brazilian composers :) :)

I shall listen with great interest :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: lechner1110 on Thursday 29 March 2012, 13:12
 
  You are welcome, Colin ;)   My recommend is Symphony by Koetsier.  It's nice work, in my opinion.  Also I very enjoyed live performance of Villa Lobos 10th. 

  Anyway, enjoy :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 07 April 2012, 15:13
Thanks for the Olsson. According to a Youtube page someone put up of the Sterling recording (?!) (a somewhat slower performance on the whole, about 3 minutes longer in the already substantial Adagio), the movements are
I. Lento - Allegro molto
II. Scherzo (Fuga) : Allegro vivace
III. Adagio
IV. Finale: Presto

Eric
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 07 April 2012, 15:22
Also, Norman's string quintet can be found in score here (http://imslp.org/wiki/String_Quintet,_Op.35_(Norman,_Ludvig)). The movements are
*Allegro energico
*Andante sostenuto e con molto sentimento
*Allegretto con moto
*Allegro appassionato (concluding Allegro agitato).
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 24 April 2012, 04:14
While on a weekend vacation-of-sorts enjoyed again several times Eggert 2 and Berwald 1 (the latter from a P2 radio podcast, the former from here) and am really looking forward to the Naxos Eggert CDs.  (Keep forgetting if Eggert wrote three or four symphonies and what the vital-data of symphonies 1 (and 4?) are but will look that up myself...) The G major (something major? my sense of key is not always what it should be, will check) introduction and other qualities of the 2nd symphony now seem very, very clever and just right rather than misjudgments - as I should have known they would.

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 26 April 2012, 13:31
also re Eggert - en-Wikipedia gives this list of his symphonies..."1 in C minor, 2 in C major, 3 in E-flat, 4 in G minor "Skjöldebrand", 5 in D minor (unfinished)"."

Is no.4 in G minor the "No.2 in G minor" in question, and what accounts for the difference in numbering? (Or did I just misread?) 
(Anyhow, I guess that accounts for the other two symphonies- they're in C minor and C major- have they been broadcast? :) )
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Saturday 05 May 2012, 16:08
Many thanks to britishcomposer for the addition of the Atterberg Double Concerto (which has never been released on cd).
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: semloh on Sunday 06 May 2012, 02:37
Quote from: Dundonnell on Saturday 05 May 2012, 16:08
Many thanks to britishcomposer for the addition of the Atterberg Double Concerto (which has never been released on cd).

Hear, hear, thank you indeed! And what a beautiful work it is, like so much of Atterberg's music.  :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 06 May 2012, 17:12
The Atterberg concerto was also performed in 2011 (http://www.gaia-festival.com/en/index.php/archive/view/gaia-2011) (May) in Switzerland.  (The set of programs looks interesting- Andriessen variations that have been commercially recorded awhile back, etc. ...) Wonder if this is a sign it might be recorded soon (with those performers, that is - Philip Graffin etc., that is?) Promising...
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Sunday 13 May 2012, 15:46
Many thanks to Sicmu for making the Kallstenius Symphony No.4 available :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 28 May 2012, 07:50
I've just uploaded two fine examples of the chamber music of Ludvig Norman - his Piano Sextet and and the String Quartet No.4. Both are recordings of fairly recent BBC broadcasts.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 28 May 2012, 10:23
The movements of the piano sextet are Allegro patetico; Andantino grazioso; Scherzo: Allegro molto vivace; Finale: Allegro con fuoco. Thanks! (Source: BBC Euroclassic Notturno listings. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/euroclassicnotturno/playlist091015.shtml)) A -different- recording of the 4th quartet has been available on CD (an LP reissue, with his piano quartet), I notice, glad to have this one (and others of his music, speaking personally).
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Monday 28 May 2012, 11:03
Thanks very much Eric for the Sextet detail. BBC Euroclassic often give movement titles when the main BBC site doesn't but for some reason I couldn't find the Sextet's listing there.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Monday 28 May 2012, 16:19
It took some doing. Thank you!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Holger on Saturday 02 June 2012, 11:27
Thanks for posting Jan Carlstedt's Symphony No. 1, britishcomposer. It's his Opus 1, by the way, and also a very fine piece with an especially interesting finale. I had a recording of the same performance myself before, but in semi-disastrous sound quality. Therefore, your upload means a major improvement.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: fr8nks on Saturday 02 June 2012, 11:42
Many thanks, Mathias, for uploading Jan Carlstedt's Symphony No.1. I requested it last night and woke up this morning and there it was!

Best,
Frank
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Dundonnell on Saturday 02 June 2012, 23:11
A bumper crop too of seven works by Lars-Erik Larsson (including one-"Musica permutatio"- missing from my catalogue :-[) :)  Many, many thanks :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: semloh on Sunday 03 June 2012, 05:22
I echo Colin's response!
I always find LEL's music hugely entertaining.
Thank you!  :)

Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: jowcol on Wednesday 06 June 2012, 16:04
Erland Von Koch
Musica Malincolica for Strings, Op 50. (1952)


(http://www.sequenza21.com/uploaded_images/390-731791.jpg)

Örebro Chamber Orchestra;
Lennart Hedwall,  Conductor

Source LP:  Swedish Society SLT 33224

From the Collection of Karl Miller


I've provided some biographical info here: http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,1516.msg28398.html#msg28398 (http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php/topic,1516.msg28398.html#msg28398)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 09 June 2012, 15:09
A recently-arrived batch of swaps from a non-internet enabled friend has yielded an off-air recording of another excellent chamber work by Ludvig Norman: his First Piano Trio, which I've now uploaded. I can't find out the movement title and so would appreciate it if anybody can post what they are.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Saturday 09 June 2012, 15:36
I have recorded the same performance of the Norman Piano Trio from a recent P2 broadcast. Unfortunately no movement titles were announced.
The performers are the members of the Stockholm Trio, Leo Berlin, violin, Åke Olofsson, cello and Lars Sellergren, piano.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 10 June 2012, 03:26
Thanks for the Norman trio (composed it seems in 1849 and published - Hofmeister lists as by "Normann, L." - in 1853 by Kistner). Hopefully some info somewhere to fill that out, anycase. (KB Netherlands server is down, so any information there, isn't...)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Thursday 14 June 2012, 07:34
I've now uploaded Ludvig Norman's String Sextet - the many really knew how to write for chamber ensembles.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: semloh on Friday 15 June 2012, 08:36
Gosh, this music by Norman just gets better and better!  ;D

How I have loved listening to the Piano Trio today - a real joy. This is my kind of music! Thank you, Mark.  :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Friday 15 June 2012, 13:09
Thanks so much for the Ölander String Sextet BritishComposer - I really look forward to listening to it.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Friday 15 June 2012, 13:20
You are welcome, Mark, but you have to thank Eric: he mentioned the piece recently and thereby remembered me that I actually had recorded the piece.
(Must confess that I haven't even listened to it myself yet...  :-[)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 15 June 2012, 20:26
And I hadn't noticed you'd uploaded it. Thanks! :) :)

There's the manuscript of an Ölander sextet in A major (score and parts) scanned at IMSLP. The recorded work is identified as being in D major, so not the same I suppose... hrm. *compares a little of them...* Ah. It -ends- in a movement in D major. Still, by consensus sort of (there being so many of these annoying cases), key and mode are determined usually by the key and mode of the first theme of the first fast movement etc. ... (actually, I guess in this case that would be the second movement here, since the first movement is only an Andantino and perhaps somewhat introductory - the second movement is again in D major... ah, hoist by my own petard :) )

Erm, seems to be the same work. Ölander, string sextet in D major, 5 movements:

*Andantino in A -
*Allegro in D
*Scherzo in F# minor
*Intermezzo. Allegretto in B minor
*Finale. Allegro vivace in D
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Friday 15 June 2012, 22:45
Thanks, Eric.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: semloh on Saturday 16 June 2012, 03:40
Quote from: Mark Thomas on Friday 15 June 2012, 13:09
Thanks so much for the Ölander String Sextet BritishComposer.....

Hear, hear! Yet another fine work by a 'new' composer.  :)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: JimL on Saturday 16 June 2012, 07:42
Quote from: eschiss1 on Friday 15 June 2012, 20:26
And I hadn't noticed you'd uploaded it. Thanks! :) :)

There's the manuscript of an Ölander sextet in A major (score and parts) scanned at IMSLP. The recorded work is identified as being in D major, so not the same I suppose... hrm. *compares a little of them...* Ah. It -ends- in a movement in D major. Still, by consensus sort of (there being so many of these annoying cases), key and mode are determined usually by the key and mode of the first theme of the first fast movement etc. ... (actually, I guess in this case that would be the second movement here, since the first movement is only an Andantino and perhaps somewhat introductory - the second movement is again in D major... ah, hoist by my own petard :) )

Erm, seems to be the same work. Ölander, string sextet in D major, 5 movements:

*Andantino in A -
*Allegro in D
*Scherzo in F# minor
*Intermezzo. Allegretto in B minor
*Finale. Allegro vivace in D
Just from the looks of things here, I would venture a guess that what you call the first movement is basically a slow introduction to the first movement, and serves as a dominant preparation for the movement proper.  I'd have to give it a listen to confirm.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 16 June 2012, 07:55
JimL- re Ölander- right, my (revised) thoughts exact... Haven't finished listening to it yet (got distracted again as keeps happening) but sounds good so far!
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Sunday 17 June 2012, 08:55
Thanks very much for Tor Aulin's Mäster Olof Suite, Atsushi.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Hofrat on Thursday 21 June 2012, 23:08
Quote from: JimL on Saturday 21 January 2012, 21:12
Come to think of it we haven't heard from good ol' Hofrat in a while.  Think I might email him.

I am so very sorry to inform you that my father "Hofrat" has passed away, on the 26th of April.
My dad suffered from Cancer in the past 3 years.
He left a son, and a grad-dauther that will hopefully be born late Aogust. He will never see her.
May he rest in peace.

Ethan.
cliftzer@gmail.com
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: JimL on Friday 22 June 2012, 00:08
My condolences to you and the rest of his family.  He will be missed here, too.  :'(
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 22 June 2012, 00:39
Agreed. Very sorry to hear!!
Title: Re: Swedish Music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Saturday 30 June 2012, 22:31
I'm once again in your debt British Composer for Elfrida Andrée's Concert Overture - it's a very attractive piece in which one can maybe trace the influence of Ludvig Norman here and there. A real find.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: EdwardHan on Friday 06 July 2012, 01:51
Is the Norman piece just be uploaded, String Quartet No. 6 in A minor (1885), his Op. 65?
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Friday 06 July 2012, 01:58
I'm guessing so, Op.65... There's a CD with one movement arranged, I think, for string orchestra that so identifies it (coupled with the 2nd symphony and the concert overture. And when the score was republished in 1984 by Gerhman it had Op.65, also; likewise the original printing by Bagge in 1887.) (The whole thing has been recorded, on LP, by the Saulesco Quartet.)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: EdwardHan on Friday 06 July 2012, 02:00
Hm, I think I have seen the CD you mentioned on Naxos Library, I'll check soon.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Balapoel on Friday 06 July 2012, 02:34
Quote from: EdwardHan on Friday 06 July 2012, 01:51
Is the Norman piece just be uploaded, String Quartet No. 6 in A minor (1885), his Op. 65?

I think it probably is. I don't know of a sixth quartet, just Eb (1848), E (op 20), d minor (op 24), C (op 42), and a minor (op 65).

Also, I'm getting an error when trying to expand the zip file - is anyone else getting an error?
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: EdwardHan on Friday 06 July 2012, 03:52
New Grove says Norman had written six quartets, but I know only five according to other resources.

The zip file is fine, no error appeared on my computer.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Lionel Harrsion on Friday 06 July 2012, 19:47
Thanks so much, britishcomposer, for the latest Norman Quartet -- another winner. :)   I keep waiting to hear a 'duff' piece of music by Norman but I'm coming to the conclusion that he was incapable of writing anything that wasn't of a very high standard.  The man was obviously inspired and equipped with impeccable technique.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Saturday 07 July 2012, 01:17
EdwardHan - well, no.5 was I think published as quartet no.6 (edit: no it wasn't apparently.), and as someone who helped compile the list in the English language Wikipedia- I don't know if that's among the other resources you mention - I don't doubt we might have missed one. Let me see soon what I anyway can find out...

(Actually, the manuscript of the D minor quartet "no.3" describes it as quartet 4 (http://www.worldcat.org/title/kvartet-for-2-violiner-viola-og-violoncel-nr-4-d-mol/oclc/479552342)...)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: JimL on Saturday 07 July 2012, 06:33
There must be an early one, perhaps unpublished.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Sunday 08 July 2012, 02:46
Actually, not many of the quartets were published during the composer's lifetime. The first one listed by Wikipedia of 5 listed was not, I think, published (there may, as you say, be one even earlier than that.)
Then there's the E major opus 20 (published in 1882). I uploaded an offradio recording of this (I don't know the movement indications and have not seen the score. Like another E major quartet I rate, Robert Fuchs' 1st, it ends irately.)
Then there's the D minor (which may be no.3 or no.4.) Manuscript in library, haven't seen a published score but I may not have looked hard enough.
Then there's the op.42 (op.41?) in C major. Then there's the A minor op.65. The A minor was published, not positive if the C major was published until the 1980s or so though.
HMB annoys here by printing his surname as "Normann" for some works (and apparently that is not how it appeared on the front page of those works... at least, not with the string quintet, which has "Ludvig Norman" as usual unless Merton's reprint took some photoshopping liberties.)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: jimmosk on Tuesday 10 July 2012, 02:58
Quote from: Balapoel on Friday 06 July 2012, 02:34Also, I'm getting an error when trying to expand the zip file - is anyone else getting an error?

Yes, I've been unable to expand it using any of several programs on my Mac. Could someone who successfully opened it please try reuploading it with a different compression?
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Tuesday 10 July 2012, 03:19
having the same problem with quartet 6 also. I guess it was an expansive work and just didn't want to be pushed in...
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Tuesday 10 July 2012, 15:55
I am currently uploading Norman's A minor Quartet again. Perhaps it has something to do with the number of characters or the tagging...
I have re-tagged it. Sorry again.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: JimL on Tuesday 17 July 2012, 15:00
For anybody who has downloaded the Aulin VC 2 but doesn't have the movements or timings, they are:

1. Moderato 9:00
2. Andante sostenuto 5:01
3. Allegro vivace 6:19

There's about 10 seconds of applause after that on the DL.
Title: Re: Swedish music - Eliasson
Post by: mjkFendrich on Tuesday 31 July 2012, 20:05
@Latvian & @britishcomposer

many thanks for posting Eliasson's 3rd and 4th symphonies!!

(btw: does perphaps any one have a recording of his recent Violin Concerto "Einsame Fahrt"?)
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: eschiss1 on Thursday 09 August 2012, 20:36
Ok, the Norman quartet zip opened- will see if I can play it now. Thanks!
Surprised at the date 1891 attaching to the Ingeborg Bronsart work. Fairly sure it was not published (1884) before it was composed. Known revision?
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: britishcomposer on Thursday 09 August 2012, 21:21
Sorry, Eric, I took it directly from the Swedish wikipedia entry. I will amend my post.
BTW, could you open the newly uploaded Mielck quartet?
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Mark Thomas on Friday 10 August 2012, 08:30
Thanks very much for the Ingebord Starck/Bronasart Fantasia, Mathias. How interesting to finally hear something of hers.
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: kyjo on Friday 10 August 2012, 16:47
I cannot help but echo Mark's words, Mathias. But Mark, I've never heard of BronAsart before ;).
Title: Re: Swedish music
Post by: Alan Howe on Friday 10 August 2012, 17:44
Coming from someone who thinks Holbrooke wrote a piece called Auld Lang SAyne Variations, that's a bit rich - and a bit cheeky.