Louis Glass - Symphony #4 on cpo

Started by Sharkkb8, Tuesday 31 May 2022, 01:50

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Ilja

I downloaded the MP3s from Presto as soon as I had the chance, and haven't regretted it. Raiskin's reading is a huge improvement over the Todorov, both in approach and execution. Most of all, he keeps things together much better and prevents the work from becoming the rambling behemoth that the older recording turned it into. Harmonically, it's a somewhat conservative symphony, but Glass does interesting things with rhythm (particularly in the opening movement), and under Raiskin's direction the effect is almost cinematic in places. Quite a re-discovery for me.

By the way, the recording has hit Spotify already, too (rather unexpectedly).

eschiss1

Amazon Music too, now you mention it.

John Boyer

Quote from: Ilja on Monday 21 November 2022, 08:22Raiskin's reading [...] keeps things together [...] and prevents the work from becoming the rambling behemoth that the older recording turned it into. Harmonically, it's a somewhat conservative symphony, but Glass does interesting things with rhythm (particularly in the opening movement), and under Raiskin's direction the effect is almost cinematic in places. Quite a re-discovery for me.

My copy from JPC arrived today. I agree with Ilja's judgment. It is a work with many grand cinematic moments.  I do find it is something of a "rambling behemoth", but perhaps that will disappear with additional hearings.  And it does suffer from the usual "finale problem", with a last movement that does not live up to the scale of what preceded it.  Still, it made a favorable impression on one hearing. 

Ilja

I just linked to yet another version of Glass's 4th in the Downloads section, by Jorma Panula and the Aarhus City Orchestra from 2006. It shaves almost another seven minutes off the symphony compared to Raiskin's version, and although the recording isn't ideal (there is some tape echo, and it is a bit uneven overall) and the orchestra isn't in the same league as the Rheinische Philharmonie, I think overall I prefer this interpretation.

The time savings take place entirely in the two middle movements; the two outer ones are almost exactly the same length as in Raiskin's version. The Adagio is just played a bit brisker, which to me makes it just flow a bit better (although other people's mileage may vary). In the Molto vivace second movement, however, Panula just makes very different choices than Raiskin, and it works really well. Worth a comparison.

CelesteCadenza

Quote from: Ilja on Saturday 10 December 2022, 17:51I just linked to yet another version of Glass's 4th in the Downloads section, by Jorma Panula and the Aarhus City Orchestra from 2006. It shaves almost another seven minutes off the symphony compared to Raiskin's version, and although the recording isn't ideal (there is some tape echo, and it is a bit uneven overall) and the orchestra isn't in the same league as the Rheinische Philharmonie, I think overall I prefer this interpretation.

The link to the download results in four .mp3 files with each movement equal to the cpo recording in timing. The metadata also indicate "Staatsorchester Rheinische Philharmonie - Daniel Raiskin" and a copyright "©2022 CPO"

Alan Howe

Thanks for pointing this out. I have deleted the download details and trust that Ilja will upload the intended performance.

Ilja

Oops! Thanks, CelesteCadenza, for reporting this; I (rather obviously) uploaded the wrong set of files. Apologies. All should be well now.

Alan Howe


Alan Howe

Just received my copy of the new cpo recording. It'll please all lovers of large late-romantic symphonies, although it's hard to discern much beyond a sort of generic idiom typical of the period (1905-8). Up against his compatriot and contemporary, Nielsen, one can see exactly why his music hasn't really caught on.

The performance takes 54:38 and seems to be well played and recorded - no quarrels there. No doubt potential purchasers will know precisely what they're ordering. Recommended, but with only modified rapture. (Although they're obviously the work of a composer from a later generation, the early Langgaard symphonies knock Glass into a cocked hat - IMHO, of course.)

John Boyer

I have found #5 to be a much more enjoyable work, but I suppose that's the subject of another thread. 

Tapiola

Does anyone know what has happened with the rest of his symphonies from this label? Can anyone contact CPO or anyone related to them in order to know about that? Once I sent them an email and it was never responded. Thank you.

Ilja

CPO are juggling quite a few plates, and an interval of several years between releases in their symphony cycles isn't unheard of. Scheduling orchestras, conductors, soloists, engineers and others can be a hassle, and when that's all done they're usually quite happy to wait even longer before releasing the recording. Your experience with their reluctance to reply to email mirrors mine, so I'm afraid there's nothing to be done but wait. On the plus side, once they commit to a series they do tend to complete it, so I'm confident that's the case here as well.

Tapiola

Thank you, Ilja. I keep my fingers crossed. They probably already recorded those works and, as you say, they're just waiting and making us impatient!  ;)

Other projects I hope they'll complete in the near future are Röntgen and Badings' symphony cycles and Rubinstein's string quartets.

eschiss1

Unsettlingly, the website of the Reinhold Quartet (which was recording that ongoing cycle, as they did Reinecke's quartets and other works for cpo) is for sale- are they still a going ensemble (I mean, yes, as of last year, but yes as of this year?)

Sometimes (... obviously) it helps to see if the conductors or orchestras associated with the recordings in question, have their own, or associated-with-them, news pages about recent performances and plans. (In Porcelijn's case, Wikipedia provides what turns out to be a dead link.)

Justin

There is an 8 year gap between the upcoming Felix Woyrsch Symphony No. 1 release and the previous album in the series. So I imagine CPO will get there eventually.